World's Largest Criminal Case

[Marina]

West Yorkshire: Police Investigation into Covid Crimes is Underway

You have to scroll down on the page to see the video.

There is also a UK crime reference number for a Covid-19 investigation. They are asking the Police to collect the bottles of vaccine, lock them away and have them independently examined.

The lady in the video also mentions other international investigations into Covid 19 taking place and says this could be the world's largest ever criminal case.

EVERY MP IN UK HAS BEEN INFORMED OF THIS.
Also BBC and Channel 4.

[Bobcat]

The world's largest criminal case = delusions of grandeur.

Just looking at the listing of headlines propagated by The Expose, I can see why they are wanting for funding. They suffer from the same problem as the WT. They have cried wolf so often that now they find it harder to get support for their imagined position of providing a warning of things to come.

Scanning their listing of headlines (i.e. opinions) also reveals them as ones who 'grasp at straws' (here) and are "calamity howlers." Some of which might, in some way, shape or form, conceivably come true. Yet, any possible truth is lost in the storm of nonsense they generate. BitChute and a few others are in the same ball park.

That's my impression, at any rate. And I kind-of see that happening to you also Marina. The more you bang away at what many think of as a fringe viewpoint, the more credibility you will lose. It's just the nature of how those things work. We, as supporters of God and Christ, will probably also end up with no credibility in the eyes of the world (until judgment day arrives, that is). (1Th 5:3) But at least we will have shown ourselves as being on the Divine side of things. But to lose credibility over someone's vaccine? That they are going to use anyway, regardless of what you say. Of what value is that?

(Over here in the States, the NFL has had a vaccine mandate in place all season. According to The Expose, sports stars are 'keeling over' left and right. But it's just not happening. Could it conceivably happen sometime in the future? Maybe. Probably not, if current trends are any indication. Such claims have all the appearance of coming from someone's overactive imagination.)

But that's my opinion. YMMV.


Bobcat

[Marina]

Hi Bobcat - let me clarify something for you. I do not agree with all that is said by these people (ie those who do not want the vaccine - there is a mix of people). Ok maybe I should have put a question mark on the end of the heading. I apologise. Or I should have written Could This Be The World's Largest Criminal Case? But the text field is not long enough to display all that. However I did make it clear in the short write up.

This is a news item which you likely would not have seen unless I showed you. If it is otherwise - fine. Ok you'd have found it in which case maybe you would have shared it as something extraordinary on the world scene that we have never seen before. Just like an earthquake or a war.

The scriptures do speak about Babylon the Great who misleads the nations using pharmakeia. Maybe this which is happening on the world scene has NOTHING to do with that. But what if it does?

Bobcat, at the beginning I said there were questions about this vaccine. The use of aborted baby and that fact that it is experimental. Now look what has happened on the world scene.

If you feel my words are not credible, well ok. I'm not right on everything but I get some things right, just like you.

What the lady who went to the Police station said was 'this could be the largest ever criminal case.' And I quoted it as such.

The lady in the video also mentions other international investigations into Covid 19 taking place and says this could be the world's largest ever criminal case.

The Police are saying that this is way above their pay grade and needs to be dealt with by those high up. Also there is an international court case - but I don't have the details of that. In addition to this you can see clearly the strength of feeling world wide. Therefore there is potential for this matter to become something much larger, which in these days of IT could become the largest court case ever. Or a huge collection of little ones all on the same or similar issue. If it comes about you know how it developed, if it does not come about you know she was wrong. But however these things pan out, this is what is happening at the moment.

[Bobcat]

Marina, don't take it personally. "YMMV" means, and accepts, that your view might be different than mine. And you have a right to your view, just as I do.

You have to also understand that when you post something on a forum, you are, as a matter of social construct, inviting a reply, or replies, some of which may agree with you, and some of which might not.

I don't totally disagree with the possibility that there might end up being problems with the vaccines for COVID. They were made in relative haste, as far as vaccines go. I've taken the vaccine (and booster - Moderna), so that I hope there isn't seriously bad effects. Especially I am concerned for possible side effects to my immune system since I am fighting cancer.

I don't buy the idea that governments are attempting to destroy their own populations. It would only lessen their influence and standing in the world. I could see them destroying another country's population in retaliation (e.g. MAD), but not their own. (Incidentally, FEMA has estimated that a 33% (+ or -) population reduction would result in that civilization's inability to maintain the present order of things. A one third casualty rate is estimated to be about the point at which that society would, inevitably, go backwards. Such backward progress would mean an increasing loss of the control that the authorities crave. So that it wouldn't make sense for them to undermine themselves like that.) So, for me, the idea of governments trying to destroy their own populations doesn't fit any serious MO profile.

I could see Satan being willing to sacrifice large numbers of humans for his own benefit. (The Late Bronze Age Collapse and the Dark Ages may be examples of that. - Here) Yet, he is between a rock and a hard place. He only rules by Divine grant. (Lu 4:5-6) And the grant is only to allow him to attempt to prove his ruling ability. (Compare Dan 4:17, 25) So that killing off large numbers of humans runs the risk of losing the grant (which he does lose eventually anyways - Rev 11:15).

At any rate, I say all that to say that, as a Christian, I think you are picking the wrong fight. And you risk marginalizing yourself in the process. But in the end, that is only my opinion.


Bobcat

[Marina]

You have to also understand that when you post something on a forum, you are, as a matter of social construct, inviting a reply, or replies, some of which may agree with you, and some of which might not.

Well its nice to know you haven't marginalized me yet!

I don't buy the idea that governments are attempting to destroy their own populations.

Fair enough and I can't say one way or the other. But a child was murdered and used for research, data/stats can be faked (lying) and hysteria/fear mongering is taking place. Plus if this works why force it on people? They'd come running. Jesus was marginalized by the Scribes and Pharisees but the people came running to him for health care, plus the truth.

If you want a THEORY for why such a thing MIGHT happen, it could be to run out hyperinflation and bring in a new world order. I'll let you do the maths and tell me the theory is wrong because I have no idea.

(Incidentally, FEMA has estimated that a 33% (+ or -) population reduction would result in that civilization's inability to maintain the present order of things.

Your number 33 could be correct - but are you aware that when you see the number 33 in news reports it can be a Free Masonic message?

As Stranger puts it

I'm sorry I have no idea what you are talking about.

You can rest assured I have nothing but good news, whether you grasp it or not, others could be benefitting. Some people have been programmed to accept things only in a certain way and others know that's just the way it is.

Stranger, (Acts 18:15)

18+15=33 - Coincidental? Maybe Stranger could clarify.

Now in another post Interesting Stuff you wrote this. I have added emphasis on the Kim & Mikey bit.

Since Lloyd Evans / John Cedars appear to be on the way out, below are a few video makers that I have appreciated (or just got a smile from). Some are a bit hokey. But they sometimes expose aspects of WT life not available to many.

1. ExJW Critical Thinker Channel - Provides a good insider's view of things.

2. Ben Foard Channel - Relatively recent, and an exBethelite.

3. Watchtower Examination Channel - Sometimes some very interesting content.

4. Mark Martin Channel - Also has some very interesting content.

5. Kim & Mikey Channel - Now these are hokey. I always suspect Mikey to be bordering on drunk. Sometimes they have some insider info.

I don't regularly watch all these. Even if I wanted to I don't have time for such. But they are a sampling of what's out there on YouTube. For better or worse.


Bobcat

You are expressing appreciation for Kim & Mikey. Hmm. Ok.

Have you seen this video that Kim & Mikey made? It is called The Broken Pillar & Temple Farms- All a Coincidence????

If you go to 13:50 you will see they speak about building 33 at Chelmsford. Bobcat have you ever wondered where they might get their information from? Could it be they are fed misinformation by someone?



In my video Arithmetic Proves They Are Not Jehovah's Witnesses - Maths Virus 3 I get out the maps at 01:22:34 and show you that building 33 may not even exist. And whether or not it does, the number 33 proves that the Watchtower is opposed to Jehovah's prophets.


01:22:34 – Knights Templar, Building 33, the jw.org roundabout at Chelmsford in UK, double cross, 666, The Seal of the Crusader Kings of Jerusalem. UN. Theosophy. THE PROPHET DANIEL AND WHAT THE NUMBER 33 REALLY STANDS FOR.

Bobcat if I'm marginalized by people who prefer Kim & Mikey...

[Stranger]

18+15=33 - Coincidental? Maybe Stranger could clarify.

I thought the scripture was clear. (Acts 18:15) For the record, I didn't number the scriptures but there are many combinations that would equal thirty three. Is it somehow a divine number? You know, I have sampled many kinds of generic electrical tape and when it comes to quality that will be remembered long after the price has been forgotten, I always reach for 3M's "Scotch" brand "Super33+" to pass inspection.https://www.lowes.com/pd/Scotch-Super-3 ... 0506929?cm

I passed by a reader board sign at one of the local Baptist Churches which read: "Feb.14th is not love. Jn 3:16 is!" (14+3+16= 33, does it not?)

33 can seem to be a recurring number when one is looking for it, it's not a number that one should be spooked about, so I would say no, not coincidental, but conversely, more like intentional.

As for the thread topic: I always considered (Gen 3:1) to be the largest criminal case in the World.



Stranger, (Ps 28:5)

[Marina]

I thought the scripture was clear. (Acts 18:15) For the record, I didn't number the scriptures

Thank you for telling me.

[menrov]

Governments act always in their own interest. Nothing new here. Their role in the COVID-19 pandemic events remain obscure. Consider the rumors about the text messages between von der Leyen (EU) and Pfizer CEO. This only supports the so-called "conspiracy theories". Governments never have made campaigns (almost similar to commercials) for vaccines or medicines that are not produced under control of the government. All these vaccines are coming from commercial companies, with their own shareholders and business plans. How can this be mixed with the role of a government?

Will governments purposely take actions (other than a real war) that would harm their population? I do not believe that, at least not actively. However, supporting events passively that might have a negative impact on its population, is another story.
In general, you will see that governments never really actively take actions to improve the general health of its population. Many hospitals are now commercial companies, research into medicines or vaccines for serious diseases like cancer, malaria or Ebola are not funded by the governments. This research is supported by donations. Nor do governments provide funding for healthy food and vitamins, not even for the poorer people in the society. They have campaigns to discourage smoking but it is not forbidden (hypocritical policy as some countries even force vaccination but do not force people to stop smoking (as levies are very interesting on this product)). They allow pollution of water and air in order to allow companies to produce, despite the negative impact on the health of people close to these production sites.

But what this pandemic has given the governments was the option to implement laws and rules to control the entire society. They have learned what it would take to implement laws/rules that would normally not be possible. Yes, in countries with strong leaders like in China, North Korea, Cuba, Saudi Arabia (and other Arab countries) and even Russia, people are used to see new laws and rules being implemented to "control" the society. But now so-called democratic countries can do the same. Just declare a pandemic and you have almost carte-blanche to implement laws/rules that allow close control on behaviors and movements of the population. In particular the covid-access-proof app (proof of vaccine, recovery or negative test) has given the governments huge learnings both in IT and operations. The pandemic message "pushed" millions of people to acquire a vaccine.

To think negatively, you can wonder, what is next? Declare stage of emergency due to another virus? foreign threats? terrorism? The governments have now learned how to do it.

As a side story: I was watching on Amazon the Person of Interest series. I believe in season 4 (but could be 5, not sure) the super artificial intelligence (SAI) operated by a company that wants global control and influence behaviors of people and is "working" with the authorities in order to get all the data they need, released a virus that made people sick and without proper help, would die. A vaccine was released and all people went to medical hubs to receive the vaccine. The event was interpreted by the main characters as a way how the SAI is now controlling the population as all vaccines contained a nano-gps tracker.
So, yes, a fantasy story but as this was originally aired a couple of years back, the comparison with today's pandemic is rather striking: control the population by declaring a pandemic and provide a way out.

Does all this justify a criminal case? I do not know. If there is ground for it, by all means, go for it. Same for the Pfizer's and Modena's of this world: what was their role? Same for medical authorities like CDC, FDA and similar organisations in other countries: what interests did / do they have in all this?

By the way, I am not against vaccines and I hope that indeed it helped all the people who have received the shots. However, I am against forcing people to accept a vaccine (or medicine for the matter), in particular when the vaccine or medicine is still not fully tested and where impact on people is not yet fully known and where there is still a lack of proof that the virus is a real threat to the population. (in our case, the declaration of a pandemic was based on hospital occupation, not the real threat to the population). It should be a personal choice. Happy if you accept, and happy if you don't. Unless there is full proof, beyond any doubt, that without the vaccine / medicine, the population as a whole is in real and immediate danger (death) (compare with a bomb threat).

[Marina]

This is an interesting article

WHY THE PHRASES "BIO-ETHICS & NUREMBERG CODES" ARE GOING TO TAKE CENTER STAGE IN 2022-2023
THE PLANDEMIC WAS **DESIGNED** TO CIRCUMVENT BENEVOLENT SCIENCE & MEDICINE

From December 9th, 1946 to August 20th, 1947 the United States Army tried twenty three Nazi & SS Doctors, Physicians & Staff for war crimes & crimes against humanity for the sick & despicable human experiment operations they oversaw and/or conducted during the war...

EXISTENCE was seen as an impediment to progress & “racial purity.”

Then those peoples were USED as a means to an end by “Doctors” eager to serve Germany at the fatal cost of those they were ENCOURAGED to experiment upon.

They did unspeakable atrocities while telling themselves they were doing these things FOR THE BETTERMENT OF HUMANITY...

The summation of all twenty three Hell Doctors defense was “ I did what I did for the People of GERMANY, The Reich & for the ADVANCEMENT of science & medicine. I had the approval & permission (from the Reich Government) to conduct these experiments & I DID N-O-T-H-I-N-G WRONG.”...

Taylor states their warped & deluded desire to “advance science & medicine” allowed them to make a mockery of their Hippocratic Oath as they focused on the process of the advancement of medicine at the BRUTAL COST of their “patients.”

Telford points out their “operations” were a dismal failure.

https://brentcates.substack.com/p/why-t ... -nuremberg

[Marina]

Will governments purposely take actions (other than a real war) that would harm their population? I do not believe that, at least not actively. However, supporting events passively that might have a negative impact on its population, is another story.

In general, you will see that governments never really actively take actions to improve the general health of its population. Many hospitals are now commercial companies, research into medicines or vaccines for serious diseases like cancer, malaria or Ebola are not funded by the governments. This research is supported by donations. Nor do governments provide funding for healthy food and vitamins, not even for the poorer people in the society. They have campaigns to discourage smoking but it is not forbidden (hypocritical policy as some countries even force vaccination but do not force people to stop smoking (as levies are very interesting on this product)). They allow pollution of water and air in order to allow companies to produce, despite the negative impact on the health of people close to these production sites.

But what this pandemic has given the governments was the option to implement laws and rules to control the entire society. They have learned what it would take to implement laws/rules that would normally not be possible. Yes, in countries with strong leaders like in China, North Korea, Cuba, Saudi Arabia (and other Arab countries) and even Russia, people are used to see new laws and rules being implemented to "control" the society. But now so-called democratic countries can do the same. Just declare a pandemic and you have almost carte-blanche to implement laws/rules that allow close control on behaviors and movements of the population. In particular the covid-access-proof app (proof of vaccine, recovery or negative test) has given the governments huge learnings both in IT and operations. The pandemic message "pushed" millions of people to acquire a vaccine.

To think negatively, you can wonder, what is next? Declare stage of emergency due to another virus? foreign threats? terrorism? The governments have now learned how to do it.

They could say there's some new strain of HIV and cause more panic among people - and this is what people will not have understood, that the HIV was in the vaccine... a tiny amount of it. But doctors who have lost their jobs have been going on and on about this. They have been trying to warn people.

BBC ADMITS THEY USE HIV TO MAKE THE COVID VACCINE

Also in USA the government is handing out free crack pipes - so just like that, crack is safer than Invermectin, which they have banned.