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Hi Matthew,
You're quick off the mark. I might be intense, but I suck at proofreading. Giselle is the name, nice to meet you likewise. As I just said to Apollos in post 12, here
WE WILL BE BACK.
coccus ilicis wrote: ↑1 year ago
Hi Matthew,
You're quick off the mark. I might be intense, but I suck at proofreading. Giselle is the name, nice to meet you likewise. As I just said to Apollos in post 12, here
WE WILL BE BACK.
Hi Giselle, pretty name!
Thanks for the kind words, I'm just glad to be here now, coming back is not an option yet.
coccus ilicis wrote: ↑1 year ago
Hi Matthew,
You're quick off the mark. I might be intense, but I suck at proofreading. Giselle is the name, nice to meet you likewise. As I just said to Apollos in post 12, here
WE WILL BE BACK.
Hi Giselle, pretty name!
Thanks for the kind words, I'm just glad to be here now, coming back is not an option yet.
Have a little faith, with God all things are possible.
coccus ilicis wrote: ↑1 year ago
Have a little faith, with God all things are possible.
We are here now, that's most amazing within itself. With the tears I've shed in the last two days (and for what though, really?) I couldn't help it, my faith is strong.
Tears of iron is what they felt like on my cheeks, perhaps it's just fading remnants but the weight was felt.
We are here now, that's most amazing within itself. With the tears I've shed in the last two days (and for what though, really?) I couldn't help it, my faith is strong.
Tears of iron is what they felt like on my cheeks, perhaps it's just fading remnants but the weight was felt.
Indeed, the weight is felt but on asking for help the weight is lifted and new energy invested. Jehovah is creating a new heavens and earth. Look! My own servants will eat, but you yourselves will go hungry. Look! My own servants will drink, but you yourselves will go thirsty. Look! My own servants will rejoice, but you yourselves will suffer shame. Look! My own servants will cry out joyfully because of the good condition of heart, but you yourselves will make outcries because of the pain of heart, and you will howl because of a sheer breakdown of the spirit ...For here I am creating a new heaven and a new earth, the former things will not be brought to mind, (Isa 65:1-17).
In the meantime, it will be for a time, times and a half. As soon as there will have been a finishing of the dashing of the power of the holy people, [set apart people], to pieces, all these things will come to a finish … From the time the constant feature has been removed and there has been the placing of the disgusting thing causing desolation, [see, the disgusting thing in post 150 here, posted on the 10th of Sept 2022], there will be 1,290 days. Happy is the one that arrives at 1,335 days, (Dan12:7,11,12, cf. Dan 9:26,27)
And those of the peoples, tribes, tongues and nations will look on their corpses for three and a half days and they do not let their corpses be laid in a tomb, And those dwelling on the earth will rejoice over them and enjoy themselves, and they will send gifts to one another because these two prophets tormented those dwelling on the earth. And after the three and a half days, the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet and a great fear befell those beholding them, (Rev 11:9,10,11)
And the sovereign Lord Jehovah will actually put you people to death but his own servants he will call by another name (Isa 65:15).
Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth, to put to test those dwelling on the earth. I am coming quickly. Keep on holding fast to what you have so that no one may take your crown. To the one that conquers – I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God ... And he will by no means go out from it anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God and that new name of mine, (Rev 3:10,11,12; cf. Rev 14:1; 22:4).
So, dear friends, keep your wits about you and conquer.
AmosAU wrote: ↑1 year ago
Hello Matthew and welcome to the forum. Give my regards to Stranger, anytime you seem him.
Hello Amos,
Thank you for the welcome, Stranger is not coming back, he made that clear to me. Told me there was one or two that would be asking about him I needed to be real careful with. I've been meaning to come say hello to you, his bigger brother that he said was one of them.
I'm not so sure what he meant by being careful, but I'll heed his advice just the same.
Stranger wrote: ↑1 year ago
We are here now, that's most amazing within itself. With the tears I've shed in the last two days (and for what though, really?
Well, I Got an answer for that question today. (Rom 8:18 KJV)
In a nutshell, the current escalation with regard to the war in Ukraine is about the two sides jockeying into a more favourable position from which to negotiate a peace deal, even as they did in 1962
. Here is news of the combatants' positions in the war zone, but the main battle will be fought by professional negotiators.
The Kherson Retreat By Pepe Escobar This excerpt is to whet the appetite: So why are the Americans desperate to offer a deal? Because they may be sensing the next Russian move with the arrival of General Winter should be capable of conclusively winning the war on Moscow’s terms … Deal or no deal, General Winter is coming to town – ready to entertain his guest of honor Sun Tzu with so many new dishes at their dinner table. For those of us who know next to nothing about war, 'Sun Tzu was the author of 'The Art of War - an influential work of military strategy that has affected both Western and East Asian philosophy and military thinking. Even if we want to steer clear of the subject, in order to understand prophecy we need to know what makes these armchair warriors tick.
He sums it up nicely. Listen to what he says from 26:00 onward.
But the real threat of a nuclear conflict is between Israel and Iran. Nationalist Israelis, like Americans, feel they are God's chosen and that Palestine is theirs by right. Like Americans, they have wrested the land from its former owners, even as happened in Australia and other colonies of the colonialists. There is nothing exceptional about that, just avarice and bloody-mindedness. But why do they see Iran as such a threat to their security? Why will they go to war with Iran, which according to Dan 10:14 will be the final war? The war Jesus warns us about at Mt24:16-21,22.
The only relevant up-to-date information I could find is in this article Why Israel fiercely opposes nuclear deal with Iran, In a rare public assessment carried by Hebrew-language media, the Israeli spymaster said resuscitating the 2015 nuclear deal, officially known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), is “very bad for Israel” and would amount to a “strategic disaster” for Tel Aviv.
“The Mossad is preparing and knows how to remove that threat,” Barnea said. “If we don’t take action, Israel will be in danger.”
He added that all the people who are involved in, or were at the head of the security apparatus, understand today that there is a more serious threat to the future of Israel than from Iran, Hezbollah, or Hamas. “This threat is what is happening within us — the risk of losing the internal cohesion, the internal solidarity and slipping into a situation with fanatics on the one hand and those who lose faith in Zionism on the other,” Barak said.
The lesson humanity has yet to learn is that 'With the measure, you are measuring out they will measure out to you,' (Mt 7:2). And it is something we will have to learn if we want to live in the new earth, (Isa 65:17; Rev 21:1,8).
1998 Osama Bin Laden Interview With ABC John Miller
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The interview has been cut, a transcript of the complete ABC interview can be found here. Text: Osama bin Laden's 1998 interview
These two protagonists are described in Ezekiel chapter 38. Jehovah puts hooks in their jaws and draws them forth for battle. One is the cryptic masculine Gog of Magog, and his band of robber barons all of them clothed in perfect taste, a numerous congregation, with a large shield and buckler, all of them handling swords. Opposing them are the feminine Persia, Ethiopia and Put. Put is also mentioned in Isa 66:19. Also Gomer and all his bands, the house of Togarmah of the remotest parts of the north, and all her bands, many peoples with you. These are armed with buckler and helmet. Note the difference in their armaments, (Ezk 38:1-6).
Although at first reading it appears that they are working together. But that was never the case. as Osama bin Laden says concerning the period when the Soviets occupied Afghanistan: in protecting Islam in Afghanistan even though this obligation of ours was at times serving, though without our consent, the interests of America. No, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan were being looted by America and not in cahoots with them. Even as was the case with Iran/Persia, during the reign of the Shah of Persia, from 1941 to 1979, who had been installed by America, (Dan 11:43,44), See the transcript of Bin Laden's interview, link above.
With the measure you are measuring out, they will measure out to you; extremists engender extremists. It is inevitable.
Then addressing the masculine Gog of Magog Jehovah says: "After many days you will be given attention. In the final part of the days you will come to the land [of people], brought back from the sword, collected together out of many peoples, unto the mountains of Israel that have proved to be a constantly devastated place; even a land that has been brought forth from the peoples where they have dwelt in security all of them." And Gog says in his heart ...“I shall go up against the land of open rural country. I shall come in upon those having no disturbance, dwelling in security all of them dwelling without a wall and they do not even have a bar for doors. It will be to get big spoil and do much plundering, in order to turn your hand back upon the place re-inhabited and a people gathered together out of the nations, that is actually accumulating wealth and property, those who are dwelling in the centre of the earth,"(Ezk 38:8).
A picture is worth a thousand words. This is what Gog of Magog saw and coveted.
And it must occur in that day that things will come up into your heart, and you will certainly think up an injurious scheme; and you must say: I shall go up against a land of open rural country, I shall come in upon those having no disturbance, dwelling in security, all of them dwelling without a wall and they do not even have a bar on their doors. It will be to get much spoil and plundering in order to turn your hand back upon devastated places reinhabited and upon a people gathered together out of all the nations and the property of those dwelling in the centre of the earth.
And that has indeed happened. Those dwelling in security, have been dispossessed and herded into ghetto-like communities
And Jehovah says: “Will it not be in that day when my people Israel are dwelling in security that you will know it? And you will certainly come from your place the remotest part of the north … and you will come against my people Israel, like clouds to cover the land. In the final part of the days, it will occur, and I shall certainly bring you against my land for the purpose that nations may know me when I sanctify myself in you before their eyes, O Gog.” And it must occur in that day when Gog comes in upon my people Israel … that my rage will come us into my nose, and in my ardour, in the fire of my fury, I shall have to speak. Surely in that day a quaking will occur in the soil of Israel … and mountains will actually be thrown down and steep ways will have to fall, and to the earth even every wall will fall. “'And I will call forth against him, throughout my mountainous region, a sword, is the utterance of Jehovah, Against his own brother the sword of each one will come to be. And I will bring myself into judgement with him with pestilence and with blood and a flooding downpour and hailstones; fire and sulphur I shall rain down upon him and upon the bands and upon the many people with him. And I shall certainly magnify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations. And they will have to know that I am Jehovah, (Eze 38:14-23).
At this link you will find the BBC version of the news, showing how this injurious scheme is working out for Gog and his band of robber barons, Israel & the Palestinians. It hasn't exactly gone as he had envisaged.
And Jehovah says: 'I will call forth against him ... a sword. Against his own brother, the sword of each one will come to be. And I will bring myself into judgement with him, with pestilence and with blood, a flooding downpour and hailstones. Fire and sulphur I shall rain down upon him and upon his bands, and upon the many peoples with him. And I shall certainly magnify myself, and sanctify myself, and make myself known before the eyes of many nations. And they will have to know that I am Jehovah, , (Ezk 38:21-23, see also Rev 16:10,11,17,18, 19, 20, 21).
Our world is divided into two camps, one pro-Israel and those against. But there is a swell of people on the horizon that is growing into tsunami proportions, people who realize we need God's help. And I will set among them a sign, and I will send some of those who are escaped from the nations to Tarshish. Put and Lud those drawing the bow, Tubal and Javan, and the far-away islands who have not heard a report about me or seen my glory. And they will certainly tell about my glory among the nations and they will actually bring their brothers out of the nations as a gift to Jehovah. And from them, I shall take some for priests for the Levites. For just as the new heavens and the new earth that I am making are standing before me," is the utterance of Jehovah, "so the offspring of you people and the name of you people will keep standing" ,(Isa 66:19-22).
