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Re: Revelation – Where we are in the stream of time​

#161 Post by coccus ilicis » 1 year ago

Spotlight on the Two Witnesses:

On a different note, in post 95 to post 104 - What are the hallmarks of those who are chosen? I discussed what is known thus far about the chosen at the time of the end. It is a complex subject and difficult to understand. Only some will master this new song, (Rev 14:3), and they will not fully master it until they are called to heaven. But now the time has come to shine a spotlight on that part of the new song that can be mastered now.

Who are the two witnesses whom Jesus empowers to prophesy amongst those serving at the altar of God's house?

As to who they will turn out to be, Paul had said: For the eager expectation of the creation is awaiting for the revealing of the sons of God, (Rom 8:19), which won't happen until after the two witnesses are killed, raised, and called up to heaven at the time of the blowing of the 7th trumpet, (Rev 11:11,12,15). And talking about this, Paul had said: ...and just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we shall bear also the image of the heavenly one ... Look I tell you a sacred secret:  We shall not all fall asleep in death but we shall all be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised up incorruptible and we shall be changed, (1Cor 15: 50,51,52). The two witnesses are already doing their work, but they have not yet been named.

The reason no one is sure about the identity of the two witnesses is that we are not meant to know who they are. These ones will be adopted as sons of God and brothers of the Son of man. It would be easy if we knew who they were, but when the Son of Man comes in his glory, neither the sheep nor the goats know who these ones are (Mt 25:38-40,44,45). Neither do they themselves know.

Neither did Paul know. All he knew was that the Pentecostal Spirit was a token of things to come, but he and those whom he addressed were still eagerly awaiting the adoption as sons, (Rom 8:23). The problem with NT Greek is that translators have rendered Kione Greek, aorist verbs, as past completed tenses, and it makes people think that this adoption as sons has already occurred when it hasn't. And other than a few well-known named individuals such as Abraham and Isaac, (Mt 8:11), we don't know who is at the base of the altar, (Rev 6:9-11). And we don't know who will complete that number. But we do know that prior to the 7th trumpet, the ones completing the number of 144,000, will make up the body of the two witnesses that Jesus causes to prophesy for 1260 days, (Rev 11:3).

What Jesus said to these potential adoptees at the last Passover he celebrated with them is recorded at Mt 26:26, 27,28, 29 & Mk 14:17,16,19,20,22-26. The two accounts are identical, except at Mk 14:20 it adds the detail that indicates more than just the twelve were present at that celebration, Mark being one of those present. Jesus had just told them that one of them would betray him and this shocked them. It says: They are shocked and say to him one by one, surely it is not I, is it?. Most translations have grieved here. The Greek word 3076 rendered grieved, first occurs in the LXX at Gen 4:5, where Cain is shocked that God looked with favour on Abel's offering and not his. The rug has been pulled from under their feet and so they anxiously ask, It is not I is it?. And Jesus says: It is one of the twelve who is dipping with me in the one bowl. By saying it is one of the twelve (Mk 14:20), he indicates that others, including Mark, were present at that meal, (cf. Ex12:4).

The account at John similarly indicates that more than the twelve were present. The secret disciple whom Jesus loved, being one of them ( Jhn 21:20,21,24). And it is quite possible that the Passover was celebrated at his house, as it appears that Jesus had made prior arrangements with a close friend who, unlike the twelve, knew he was going to be arrested that night. Jesus had told his disciples, Go into the city of So-and-so and say to him. The Teacher says; my appointed time is near, (Mt 26:17,18; see also Mk 14: 13-15 & Lu 22:7-12). What a strange thing to say, 'go to the city of so-and-so.' Who was this so-and-so? It appears that they had forgotten who he was by the time the gospel accounts were recorded.

This close friend, the secret disciple Jesus loved records all that Jesus did and said that night in great detail, he might have even had a scribe there to record all that was said, (cf. Jhn 21: 24). His account starts with the words: … Now because he/Jesus knew before the festival of the Passover that the hour had come for him to move out of this world to the Father. As I said this is something the twelve did not know, nor did they understand when Jesus explained it to them, as he did that evening, see, Jhn 14:3,5. So whoever this close friend was, he not only understood what was going to happen and why, but also knew what the chief priests planned, (Jhn 11:47,48,49,50,57), which indicates he was privy to what went on behind closed doors of that circle. No wonder his name was withheld.

Anyway, his account of the last Passover starts at Jhn 13:1 and continues to Jhn 18:1. All he says concerning the actual bread and wine ritual is: So while the evening meal was going on, the Devil, having already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon to betray him, (Jhn13:2). Again we see that this intimate friend of Jesus knew things the others didn't, (Mt 26:14,15). According to his account, nothing out of the ordinary was said or done during the actual Passover celebration. And he goes on to report all the important things that Jesus did and said that evening. But he does not mention the extraordinary supplementary statement recorded in Lu 22:28-30).

According to Luke's account, Jesus had also said: However, you are the ones that have stuck with me in my trials and I make a covenant with you, just as the Father has made a covenant with me for a kingdom,  that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones to judge the twelve tribes of Israel. Jesus either said this, or he didn't.

For the following reasons, we now know that this supplementary statement is pure fiction.
  • Neither Matthew, Mark nor the author of the 4th gospel would have missed such an extraordinary statement
  • It indicates the opposite of what Paul said concerning the chosen at Rom 8:19
  • And it conflicts with what Jesus said concerning those going to heaven to rule with him at Mt 20:23
  • And the statement implies that the ones present at that supper, would lord it over the 12 tribes listed at Rev 7:4-8, which is not corroborated elsewhere in scripture
But when there are conflicting statements in the bible, there is always a reason.

Luke's eyewitness is not named, so the veracity of his statement cannot be checked. From Acts 1:1) we know that the author of Luke, also wrote the book of Acts and that he was a travelling companion of Paul when Paul went to Rome to present his case before Caesar, circa 70 CE, (cf Acts 20:5). So any witness who claimed Jesus had said this, must have been present at that meal and would have been in his 70s or older. This person is not named, but the author of Luke believed him, (Lu 1:1-4). And what he said has been a stumbling block and the cause of much confusion.

In the illustration of the wheat and the weeds, the slaves of the householder had come to him and asked: Master did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it come to have weeds? And he said: “An enemy, a man does this, (Mt13:28).That man is not named. The slaves then ask him if they should go and pull out the weeds. And the master had said … No; that by no chance while collecting the weeds, you uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and I will tell the reapers, First, collect the weeds and tie them into bundles for the burnup and then go gathering the wheat into my storehouse, (Mt 13:27 28,29,30).

The harvest is the conclusion of the system of things, (Mt13:39), But who is the enemy, the man who over-sowed the field with weeds? Is it the same one that put the words recorded at Lu 22:28-30 into Jesus's mouth?

Jesus tells us: … The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man … the field is the world and as for the fine seed these are the sons of the kingdom, but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one and the enemy that sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is the conclusion of the system of things, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things ... The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect together from out of his kingdom all the things causing stumbling and persons doing lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace, (Mt 13: 37-41).

But before that happens the things causing stumbling and persons doing lawlessness must FIRST be collected together. The Son of man does this when he causes his two witnesses to prophesy amongst those serving at the altar of God's house for a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth, (Rev 11:3). Their prophesying causes the things causing stumbling and persons doing lawlessness to be collected together as described at Rev 11:8,9,10), in preparation for the burnup. Note the two witnesses, are dressed in sackcloth just like John the baptist/Elijah, (cf Mt 11:13,14,15; Mt 17:10,11).
But who are these two witnesses?

These are [symbolized by] the two olive trees and the two lampstands that are standing before the Lord of the earth, (Rev 11:4; Zech 4:12-14). And concerning them, at Zech 3:1, Zecheriah says, that Jehovah's angel proceeded to show me Joshua/Jesus the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah and Satan standing at his right hand in order to resist him.

The two witnesses and Joshua are one and the same in the sense that they are Jesus's earthly representatives during the conclusion of the system of things, (Rev 11:3).

Jehovah's angel orders that their filthy garments be removed and replaced with clean ones. And Jehovah tells them: If it is in my ways that you will walk and if it is my obligation that you will keep, then also it will be you that will judge my house and Keep my courtyards and I shall certainly give you free access among those who are standing by, (Zech 3:1-7). The ones standing by, are the angelic persons of Zech 3:1. Even as Paul said: For all who are being led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you do not receive a spirit of bondage again but you receive a spirit of adoption as sons ... not only that but we, [Paul and his companions] ... Yes, we, ourselves groan within ourselves while we are earnestly awaiting the adoption as sons, (Rom 8:14,15,23) And at 1Cor 15:49 he says; Just as we bear the image of the one made of dust we also shall bear the image of the heavenly one. The underlined verbs are aorist overview verbs, which do not determine the time when something is done, i.e. if I say 'John sings,' it doesn't tell you when John sings.

If the ones that comprise the body of the two witnesses walk in God's ways and keep his obligations they will sit at Jesus' right and left hand when he comes into his kingdom, (Mt 20:23; Rev 11:12,15).

But before that happens their befouled garments are removed. The garments of those serving at the altar of God's house are befouled with the teaching of the man who oversowed the field with weeds that cause stumbling and are persons doing lawlessness. Jehovah says to them, ' If it is in my ways that you will walk, and if it is my obligations that you will keep, then also it will be you that will judge my house and also keep my courtyards and I will certainly give you access amongst those standing by [angelic ones}, (Zech 3:3-7). The prophesying of the two witnesses of Rev 11:3,4 and Zech 4:12,14, serves to separate those who walk in God's ways and keep his obligations from those who do not. The one making the necessary adjustment is clothed in a clean marriage garment,(Rev 6:1!), the one that doesn't isn't. He is cast into the darkness outside. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be, (Mt22:11,12,13).

World events indicate that we are now in the interim after those under the altar have been given their white robes and are waiting for their number to be filled of their fellow slaves and brothers who are about to be killed even as they had been, (Rev 6:11). But once the body of the two witnesses is on display in the great city that is in a spiritual sense called Sodom and Egypt, (Rev 11:8), the door will be shut, (Mt 25:8,9,10,11,12).
"For there are many invited but only a few chosen,", (Mt 22:14).

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Re: Revelation – Where we are in the stream of time​

#162 Post by coccus ilicis » 1 year ago

Spotlight on the darkness outside

in post 161 above, I said;
The prophesying of the two witnesses of Rev 11:3,4 and Zech 4:12,14, serves to separate those who walk in God's ways and keep his obligations from those who do not. The one making the necessary adjustment is clothed in a clean marriage garment,(Rev 6:1!), the one that doesn't isn't. He is cast into the darkness outside. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be, (Mt22:11,12,13)
For many are invited but few are chosen. When the Pharisees heard this they went their way and took counsel together in order to stop Jesus in his speech, (Mt 22:14,15). And so they sent their partisans to him to trap him in his speech but he turned the tables on them and exposed them, (Mt 22:16-21). Then he also turned the tables on the Sadducees, (Mt 22:-32). At that point, these two parties who had been at loggerheads with one another joined forces,(Mt 22:34). And testing him they asked what was the greatest commandment in the Law. And he said “'You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.' This is the first commandment. The second like it is this, 'You must love your neighbour as yourself.' On these two commandments, the whole Law and the prophets hang'", (Mt 22: 34-40, cf. De 6:5; Le 19:18). Those Jews were disregarding this most basic principle of the Law, (Mt 23:13-33).

And today Jews with the same mindset do the same work as their predecessors, but they have taken it a step further even as Moses had said they would: For I well know that after my death you will without fail act ruinously and you will certainly turn aside from the way I have taught you. And calamity will be bound to befall you at the close of the days because you will do what is bad in the eyes of Jehovah so as to offend him by the works of your hands, (De 31:29).

At Rev 21:8 it says concerning these ones, But as for the cowards and those without faith and those having become disgusting in their filth, the murderers, the deviant fornicators, and those practising spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur.

Wikipedia - Jewish Views on Lying
However, in various biblical stories, those who lie and mislead are not necessarily condemned, and in some cases are praised. Biblical figures that engaged in deception include Abraham, Isaac, Simeon, and Levi..
But those instances occurred before they committed themselves to uphold the Law, which forbade lying, i.e. Lev 9:11.
Bava Metzia 23b-24a lists three exceptions where lying is permitted:[3][6][7]
  • It is permissible for a scholar to state he is unfamiliar with part of the Talmud, even if he is familiar (out of humility)
  • It is permissible to lie in response to intimate questions regarding one's marital life (as such things should be kept private)
  • Lying about hospitality received (to protect the host)
Yevamot 65b states that "It is permitted to stray from the truth in order to promote peace", and Rabbi Natan further argues that this is obligatory.[8]
Later views
Due to the principle of saving a life, in Jewish law, it is required to lie to save a life, such as withholding a diagnosis from a seriously ill patient[9] or concealing one's Jewish faith in a time of persecution of Jews.[10] It may also be required to lie in other cases where a positive commandment would be violated by telling the truth, as positive commandments in Judaism usually take precedence against negative ones.[9] Even in the cases where lying is acceptable, it is preferable to tell a technically true but deceptive statement or employ half-truth. It is also completely forbidden to lie habitually, to lie to a child (which would teach them that it was acceptable), and to lie in the court system.[5] ... Rabbi Eliyahu Dessler redefined "truth" to mean any statement which serves God and "falsehood" to mean any statement that harms God's interests. This would radically change Jewish views on lying.[11] ... According to Conservative rabbi Louis Jacobs, "the main thrust in the appeals for Jews to be truthful is in the direction of moral truth and integrity" although there is also "great significance to intellectual honesty".[3] Reconstructionist rabbi Fred Scherlinder Dobb stated in an interview, "There is no justification whatsoever in Jewish tradition for lies which are either sloppy, systemic or self-serving... every word we utter should reflect our values, and one of the highest of those values is truth."
, (underline & bold mine).

I have copied and pasted the above from the Wikipedia site. A site that has already been sanitized by a phalanx of Jewish editors hiding the more radical edicts that deal with lying to gentiles. That the internet including Wikipedia is sanitized is openly admitted by them, watch the embedded video on Israel's Internet Censorship Wars here: You will have to be quick, as the video is under constant attack, even as I write. Many links in this article have been blocked, so read and watch the video while you still can. At 3:28 they admit to infiltrating Wikipedia and show how it is done. This is what was meant at (Dan 12:7) where it speaks about the dashing of the power of the holy people to a finish, (Dan 12:7).

Here is a recent article: Digital warfare: Media experts sharpen tools to promote Israel amid a disinformation apocalypse. Disinformation is lying.

Much effort goes into promoting the lie. Movies and even documentaries are produced to mislead people into believing the lie. Paul had said concerning the period we are living in now, That the lawless ones' presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents. And with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved, (2Thess 2:9). This is not about religious truth of this as opposed to that doctrine. Satan has kept us busy and bloody-minded enough in that regard for millennia. No, what he is talking about is our time, when the manifestation of Jesus's presence is imminent, saying: Then indeed the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of this mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence, (2Thess 2:8). Jesus's spirit is now operative on those that love him and obey his commandments, (Jhn 14:15,16,25,26)

Here is an excerpt from the recent documentary, 'Soros.' He is a Jew and an atheist. He is in his nineties and here he reads from a prepared script, George Soros on Russia, China and the Fight of Our Lives: Remarks Delivered at Davos. 263,437 views, 26 May 2022. Open Society Founder and Chair George Soros painted a stark portrait of the global state of affairs in a speech at the 2022 World Economic Forum. Note, what he says concerning the bottom line at 26:36.

So a nuclear war with Russia a China is on the cards. Another Jew who spoke at Davos this year is Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine

Here is Putin's reply:

And on this site: Russia is not Bluffing you can watch the following videos and hear what others said at the UN on the 21st and 22nd of September:
  • Russia FM rejects Western accusations on Ukraine at Security Council
  • Biden UN Speech
  • Ukraine's President Zelenskyy addresses the United Nations General Assembly
  • UK Prime Minister Truss addresses the United Nations General Assembly
Will it culminate in an all-out nuclear war, or will they negotiate a new deal with the dissenting nations, led by Russia and China? President Xi Jinping Meets with Russian President Vladimir Putin, 2022-09-15 22:42.

If they do then the U.S. will be sidelined, (Dan 11:45), which is already part of the WEF Davos forum agenda. If you have access to the complete Soros documentary you will hear him talk about this. And they will put in place the multipolar beast described thus at (Rev 17:12,13,16,17), And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour with the wild beast, [the one the harlot rides]. These have one thought and so they give their power and authority to the beast ... these will hate the harlot and make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and completely burn her with fire. For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out their one thought by giving their power to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.

Jesus speaking to his slaves whom he had told to keep on the watch, said: On this account you too prove yourselves ready because at an hour you do not think it to be, the son of man is coming. That warning also applies to us. So we will have to keep our wits about us. And keep in mind what Paul said: For you yourselves know that Jehovah's day is coming exactly as a thief in the night whenever it is that they are saying, 'Peace and Security!' Then sudden destruction will be instantly upon them, (1Thess 5:2,3)

Jehovah says: "Look I am making all things new." And those who conquer he will call his son. But as for the cowards and those without faith and those disgusting in their filth ... and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This means the second death,(Rev 21:5,8). But it makes me wonder whether, when atheists like George Soros come face to face with the reality that God exists, being above all a pragmatist, they will turn around and serve God. It can't be ruled out.

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#163 Post by coccus ilicis » 1 year ago

Continued from above. Here are two additional videos that help one understand why US domination is on the way out.

Global Capitalism: China vs. US - System Rising vs. Falling [September 2022]

Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Policy & "West's False Narrative" Stoking Tensions with Russia, China

If the video does not play, try this direct link:

The question that arises is who is in the driver's seat. For God put it into their hearts to carry out his one thought, even to carry out their one thought, (Rev 17:17).

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#164 Post by coccus ilicis » 1 year ago

Shining a spotlight into the darkness.

At Rev 1:3 it says: Happy is the one reading and those who hear the words of this prophecy and who observe the things written in it, for the appointed time is near. But in order to match up world happenings with what is described in Revelation, one must first be able to access unbiased news, which ought to be relatively easy with a worldwide internet under our fingertips. But it isn't because the serpent is flooding it with its version of events, (Rev 12:15) and independent news services are going offline one after the other. The world is now divided into two camps, as Bush said after 9/11 before invading Iraq, 'You are either with us or against us.' but this is not Jehovah's way, he doesn't take sides, (De 10:17-19). Here is news from independent alternative news sites that can still be accessed.

RT - News and RT-UK. And the Grayzone UK but this site may yet also be shut down, British Gov is targeting The Grayzone.
These recent videos and articles from Grayzone you won't find in mainstream western media.
EU parliamentarian calls to sanction Vanessa Beeley and all observers of the Donbass referendums. Also US, UK sabotaged peace deal because they ‘don’t care about Ukraine’: fmr. NATO adviser

Putin just CALLED their bluff and SH*T is about to hit the fan | Redacted with Clayton Morris
30 Sept 2022 Russia says it will annex the Donbass region on Friday afternoon. Meanwhile, NATO countries are meeting to prepare a full military response. Still, no one will say who attacked the Nord Stream pipelines

And this video is a comprehensive picture of how the current situation evolved, and it contains information about peace initiatives that were scuttled by the US/NATO camp.
Western domination of the world is 'over': Former French ambassador Gérard Araud • FRANCE

And this one shows how the opposing eastern camp is ramping up its manpower. North Koreans arrive in Ukraine to help Russia

And the sixth one poured out his bowl upon the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up that the way might be prepared for the kings of the rising of the sun , (Rev 16:12; cf. Dan 11:44,45). Western media focuses on climate change when they talk about the Euphrates drying up. But Muslims refer to the apocalypse.

Here is how Muslims interpret the phenomenon of the Euphrates drying up. Note these are recent videos and there is no reference to climate change.
A Mysterious Cave Found Under Euphrates River as Its waters are drying Up -Sept. 2022

Gold has been found in the Euphrates River as the water dries up - Aug. 2022

And the sixth angel who had the trumpet said: "Untie the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates." and the four angels, [spirits or demons as in the mysterious cave video above], were untied who have been prepared for the hour and the day and the month and year to kill a third part of the men. And the number of the Armies of the cavalry was two myriads of myriads {20,000 times 10,000 Rev 9:13,14,15; cf. Rev 9:1,2,3,4), The one woe is past. Look! Two more woes are coming after these [things], (Rev 9:12). These two myriads of myriads are now gathering, and the second woe, the killing of a third part of the men is about to be unleashed, (Rev 9:12,15). Will it include a nuclear exchange? The description in Rev 9:16,17,18, 19 indicates it will ... For the authority of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails. For their tails are like serpents having heads, and with these, they do harm (nuclear fallout). So the third part of mankind dies from nuclear radiation, (cf. Mt 24:19).

This second Woe ends when the two witnesses stand back up on their feet, (Rev 11:11,14).

But what about the third religious body that stems from Abraham and purportedly worships the creator God? This video shows where they currently stand on these issues. For Jehovah, your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the God great and fear-inspiring, who treats none with partiality nor accepts a bribe, executing judgment for the fatherless boy and the widow, and loving the alien resident so as to give him bread and mantle. You must love the alien residents for you became alien residents in the land of Egypt, (De 10:17-19).
Why Israel’s Doomsday Nationalists Want To Destroy This - 2 Jun 2022

Thank you Stranger for reopening the topic I posted 5 years ago, I had completely forgotten what I had written there, see The kingdom of the heavens is like leaven. It is very timely and pertinent to the above. As Paul said God makes all his works cooperate together, (Rom 8:28). See AmosAU's reply posts 53 here

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#165 Post by coccus ilicis » 1 year ago

Shining a spotlight into the darkness
Woe 2

In post 194 above I quoted Rev 9:13-15
And the sixth angel who had the trumpet said: "Untie the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates." and the four angels, were untied who have been prepared for the hour and the day and the month and year to kill a third part of the men. And the number of the Armies of the cavalry was two myriads of myriads [20,000 times 10,000s]
Although two myriads is an actual number, (20,000), myriads, (10,000s) makes it an indefinite uncountable number. So the actual number of combatants killed in the war, which starts at the hour, the day, the month, and the year of the time appointed by God, is unknown. And the third of the men that are killed by the fire and sulphur and smoke, nuclear radiation, refers to people living in the war zone. The third part of these participating nations is killed at that time.

(Mt 24:19; Rev 9:15)

But what countries will take part in this war?

At Jer 25:12 it says: And it must occur when the seventy years are fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon and against that nation … their error, … and I will make it a desolate waste. This prophecy was written during the 4th year of Jehoiakim, one year after Daniel and his companions had been taken hostage to Babylon, (Dan 1:1,2). At that time what is written in Jer 25:8-11 was beginning to be fulfilled. The 70 years of desolation ended circa 537 BC when the Medo/Persians had entered Babylon and the last king of Babylon had been killed, (Dan 5:30,31). So when Jehovah says: And it must occur when the seventy years, {of Judah's devastation cf. Jer 25:11], have been fulfilled I shall call to account the king of Babylon, and against that nation ... their error ... and I will make it a desolate waste to time indefinite. Since at the end of seventy years, the last king of Babylon was already dead and the nation-state of the Chaldeans was under Medo/Persian control, this prophecy must refer to a future destruction of Nimrod's Babel, meaning Gate of God. It was later called Babylon, confusion, by the Hebrews, (Gen 10:10), see snips below.

(highlights, strikethrough & box mine)

And I will bring against this land all my words that I have spoken against it … that Jeremiah has prophesied against all the nations. Jehovah then told Jeremiah to take the cup of the wine of his rage out of his hand and that he should make all the nations to whom he was sending him drink it. And they must shake back and forth like crazed men because of the sword that I am sending among them, (Jer 25:15,16). This occurs when the four spirit beings that have been prepared for the hour, the day, the month and the year that Jehovah has set aside for the killing of the third part of the men, are untied, (Rev 9:15).

But who are those nations that must drink from the cup of Jehovah's rage?

Jerusalem and the cities of Judah and her kings and princes, to make them a devastated place, and an object of astonishment something to whistle at, just as at this day. In 537 BCE Jerusalem lay in ruins. So this destruction refers to a future destruction. Then Jeremiah lists Egypt and the land of Uz, roughly in the area of modern-day southwestern Jordan and southern Israel, see Lam 4:21. The land of the Philistines, Ashkelon, Gaza, Ekron, the remnant of Ashdot, Edom, Moab and Ammon, Tyre, (Jer 25:20-22) see pics below.
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The location of Dedan, Tema and Buz is unclear, but if hair clipped at the temples is a clue, (Jer 25:23) it could refer to the North Koreans, see the video in post 264 above. And all the kings of the north who are near and far away refers to Russia, America and NATO member countries. They all one after the other and all the [other] kingdoms of the earth, must drink the cup of Jehovah's rage, Jer 25:26. Then it says: and the king of Sheshak himself must drink after them. Knowing who ששך Sheshak refers to is crucial to understanding the timing and the ordering of prophetic events, and to correctly identify the hour, and day, and month and year that Jehovah has reserved for the start of this slaughter (Rev 9:15; Jer 25:32,33, cf Rev 16:14).

And Jeremiah is told that if any should refuse to drink the cup of the wine of his rage he is to say to them. You will drink without fail. For Look! it is upon the city upon which my name has been called, [cf. Jer 25:18], that I am starting off in bringing calamity, and should you yourselves in any way go free of punishment?" "'You will not go free of punishment for there is a sword that I am calling against all the inhabitants of the earth, (Jer 25:28,29).

And confirming Rev 9:13-21 it says: Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the earth, they will become, (Jer 25:32,33). This has not happened yet but according to Rev 9:12,15 occurs during the 2nd Woe, (Jer 25:29; cf Mt 24:15,19,20,21). The 1st Woe, (Rev 8:13; 9:1-11) began with the Stonewall Riots of 1963 in NY, see Stonewall Riots. And ended with the conclusion of the trials against the practice of covering up paedophilia in Christendoms churches.

The only other place Sheshak ששך is mentioned is at Jer 51:41. This prophecy begins thus: This is what Jehovah has said: “Here I am rousing up against Babel and against the inhabitants of Lebkami – the inner manHere I am against you O ruinous mountain, is the utterance of Jehovah, you ruiner of the whole earth. I will stretch out my hand against you, and roll you away from your crags, and make you a burnt-out mountain … The daughter of Babel is like the threshing floor. It is time to tread her yet a little while and then the harvest must come to her … O how Sheshak ששך has been captured and how the praise of the whole earth gets to be seized. How Babel has become a mere object of astonishment for the whole earth, (Jer 51:1,2, 33 33, 41). This prophecy is a continuation of Jeremiah Jer 25:12-32, but focuses on what happens to Sheshak ששך.

So who or what is Sheshak at the time of the harvest

At Rev 17:4 John sees a woman who has in her hand a golden cup that is full of the disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. And on her forehead, was a name written, a mystery[/u]. That mystery name is ששך SHeSHaK

The entry at bible hub for 8347. SheShaK says under the header, 'Brown-Driver-Briggs
שֵׁשַׁךְ proper name, of a territory = בָּבֶל (Jerome Rabb and modern; by Atbaš (׳בש׳את), i.e. disguising name by substituting last letter of alphabet for first, next last for second, etc., compare Thes); — Jeremiah 51:41 and hence (perhaps gloss) Jeremiah 25:26

This snip of the Heb alphabet from the book 'Teach Yourself Hebrew' will help to explain what Brown-Driver-Briggs says concerning SheShaK
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Sheshak consists of 3 Heb characters/letters. Reading from right to left K SH SH ששך. If one counts these letters from the end of the alphabet (the bottom of the above picture), one can see that the SH שֵׁ is the 2nd last letter of the alphabet and K ךְ is the 12th letter from the bottom.

Using the same procedure, we find that the 2nd letter from the beginning of the alphabet (the top of the picture) is the B בֶ֔ and the 12th letter from the top is L ל. Therefore ששך SHe ShaK converts to בֶ֔בֶ֔ל, BaBe. Using modern terminology SheShaK is the encrypted name for Babel on the harlot's forehead. And according to Jeremiah's prophecies, Jehovah attends to her last, after he has dealt with Jerusalem and the nations.

In Revelation two harvests are mentioned. One is of grain (Rev 14:15,16) which occurs during the second Woe. Followed by the harvest of the clusters of the vine which are thrown into the winepress of God's anger, (Rev 14:17-20 cf. Rev 6:6). Is it not wonderful how when we have a more complete understanding of these prophecies they all come together and complete the picture?

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#166 Post by coccus ilicis » 1 year ago

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Woe! Woe! Woe!

And I look and hear one eagle flying in mid-heaven saying with a loud voice: "Woe! Woe! Woe! To those who dwell on the earth because of the remaining trumpet voices of the angels being about to voice [their trumpets," (Rev 8:13).

In post 165 above I said:
The 1st Woe, (Rev 8:13; 9:1-11) began with the Stonewall Riots of 1969 in NY, see Stonewall Riots. And ended with the conclusion of the trials against the practice of covering up paedophilia in Christendoms churches.
These woes are preceded by 4 trumpet blasts. The 1st trumpet had announced extreme weather conditions that would destroy plant life. The 2nd announced the desecration of life in the sea and cause boats to be wrecked, (see Rogue Waves. And the 3rd turned drinking water into wormwood and many men would die from the waters. And the 4th blast darkened the sky so that light from the sun and moon would dim, (Rev 8:7-12). Compare Rev 16:1-4 which adds: And the fourth one pours out his bowl upon the sun it is granted it to scorch men with fire. And the men are scorched with great heat, and they cursed the name of God, the one having authority over these blows, and they do not repent and give glory to him. And the 5th angel pours out his bowl of God's anger upon the throne of the beast. And its kingdom becomes darkened and they gnaw their tongues in their distress. And they curse God of the heaven for their distresses and for their ulcers, and they do not repent of their works, (Rev 16:8,9,10,11). And at Rev 9:20 it says: And the rest of the men who are not killed by these blows do not even repent of the works of their hands of them so that they should not worship demons and the idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. and they do not repent of their spiritistic practices, nor of their fornication and thefts.

What are these works of which they do not repent?

Converting this into modern terminology, their idols are those things that they themselves create. And spiritistic practices does not refer to mixing potions as was done by socerers, but has to do with the fundamental creative atomic forces that make this planet habitable. The Hebrew word for spirit is ruach ... Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness over the surface of the watery deep and God's spirit/ruach was hovering over the surface of the waters, (Gen 1:2).

When did they start to work with these fundamental spiritistic atomic forces?

Benchmarks: August 27, 1958: Operation Argus creates first anthropogenic space weather ... Secrecy was critical considering the nature of the mission: detonating multiple low-yield nuclear weapons high in the atmosphere to study the explosions' effects on Earth’s magnetosphere. The task force launched three 1.7-kiloton bombs — one each on Aug. 27, Aug. 30 and Sept. 6, 1958 — detonating them, respectively, at altitudes of 200, 240 and 540 kilometers. The experiments marked the first time that humans altered space weather ...
Prompt Planning - The U.S. Armed Forces Special Weapons Project, the successor to the Manhattan Project, hastily devised Operation Argus to test Christofilos' theory by detonating nuclear weapons high in the atmosphere and observing how particles shed by the explosion behaved. Although atmospheric nuclear testing had been conducted in the past, at altitudes of tens of meters, Argus would be the first such experiment to take place above the dense atmosphere (troposphere, stratosphere and mesosphere).

Then there was Starfish Prime: The Largest Nuclear Test in Space.. Starfish Prime was a high-altitude nuclear test conducted on July 9, 1962 as part of a group of tests collectively known as Operation Fishbowl. While Starfish Prime was not the first high-altitude test, it was the largest nuclear test ever conducted by the United States in space. The test led to the discovery and understanding of the nuclear electromagnetic pulse (EMP) effect and a mapping of seasonal mixing rates of tropical and polar air masses ...Starfish was one of five planned Fishbowl tests. An aborted Starfish launch occurred on June 20. The Thor launch vehicle began to break apart about a minute after launch. When the range safety officer ordered its destruction, the missile was between 30,000 and 35,000 feet (9.1 to 10.7 kilometers) of altitude. Debris from the missile and radioactive contamination from the warhead fell into the Pacific Ocean and Johnston Atoll, a wildlife refuge and airbase used for multiple nuclear tests. In essence, the failed test became a dirty bomb. Similar failures with Bluegill, Bluegill Prime, and Bluegill Double Prime of Operation Fishbowl contaminated the island and its surroundings with plutonium and americium that remain to the present day.

And then there is HAARP
Ionospheric Heaters: How HAARP really works "Powerful HF transmitter (2.8-10 MHz) that induces controlled temporary modification to the electron temperature at desired altitude" which are "Use(d) in conjunction with diagnostics to study, in a cause and effect fashion: Electromagnetic propagation, plasma turbulence and instabilities" and the "Response of magnetospheric plasma and Radiation Belts to controlled perturbations (man-made intervention) of the ionospheric plasma." Basically, scientists are trying to understand our ionosphere by poking it and seeing how it reacts. There are many Ionospheric Heaters around the world, see link.
The Earth's Ionosphere - Plasma Physics and Electrodynamics says: The ionosphere is somewhat of a battleground between the earth's neutral atmosphere and the sun's fully ionized atmosphere, in which the earth is embedded. One of the challenges of ionosphere research is to know enough about these two vast fields of research to make sense of the ionospheric phenomena.

What impact has this poking of the Ionosphere had on the earth?

The Ozone Hole over Antarctica: The story behind the discovery of the ozone hole The results were clear: since the late 1970s there had been a systematic decline in the amount of spring ozone. By 1984, the ozone layer over Halley Research Station in Antarctica was only about two-thirds as thick as it had been in earlier decades.

Study Reveals Devastating 15-year Effect Of Nuclear Explosion On Ozone Layer
A new collaborative study conducted by Rutgers University and the National Center for Atmospheric Research states that any nuclear war on Earth can affect our planet for the next 15 years. Moreover, the experts warned that any unfortunate nuclear event can cause wide-scale destruction of food supplies and can trigger catastrophic climatic change.
Nuclear war can cause years of ozone depletion ... The study conducted by the aforementioned institutions estimated the resulting damage from nuclear warfares to nature and to the planet overall, as per a report by the Science Times. The results of the study stated that the breakout of a nuclear war will heat the planet up to the stratosphere and result in a loss of 65-75% of the ozone layer, which would take at least 15 years to heal

Rates are expressed per 100,000 population and age-standardised to the World Health Organisation world standard population.
Number of new cases and age-standardised registration rates for males for selected cancers, New Zealand, 1948–2016
For males
Date all cancer
1948 2,038
2017 13,073
For females
1948 1,436
2017 11,509

For detailed charts go to Cancer: Historical summary 1948–2017. Note the steep increase. Testing of nuclear weapons was done prior to 1954 when the 1st atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshiman and Nagasaki

Changing the patterns of EL Nino

El Niño has rapidly become stronger and stranger, according to coral records
The pattern of El Niño has changed dramatically in recent years, according to the first seasonal record distinguishing different types of El Niño events over the last 400 years ...A new category of El Niño has become far more prevalent in the last few decades than at any time in the past four centuries. Over the same period, traditional El Niño events have become more intenseby the end of the 20th century, ... our research shows a sudden change: a sharp increase of Central Pacific El Niño events.

As the charts at that site show, the coral gives dates when our weather began to change. Human activity such as the use of refrigerants, fluorocarbons and CO2 emissions etc. are just red herrings used to divert attention away from the real culprits behind global warming, namely ambitious men seeking to weaponize the forces that control the weather.


And John hears a loud voice saying to the seven angels: "Go and pour out the seven bowls of the anger of God into the earth", (Rev 16:1).
The 4th one pours out his bowl upon the sun, and the sun is granted to scorch humankind with fire. And men are being scorched with great heat. And they curse the name of God who has authority over these plagues/blows, and they do not repent so as to give glory to God, (Rev 16:8,9).
And when the 5th one pours out his bowl on the throne of the wild beast, its kingdom becomes darkened. That is now in progress. And they gnaw on their tongues for their distress, and they curse the God of heaven for their distresses and for their ulcers and they do not repent of their works, (Rev 16:10,11)

The 6th one pours out his bowl and the great river, Euphrates, and its water is dried up. It is then that three demon-inspired expression go forth to the Kings of the earth to gather them together to the war of the great day of mighty God. That is also now in progress. The weapons used in this war will include those mentioned above, and no doubt others that are still under wraps - the results of their spiritistic practices, (Rev 16:12-14).

And the 7th one pours out his bowl upon the air, and lightnings ... thunders and a great shaking occurs. The shaking is so extensive that the great city, [cf Rev 17:18 & Rev 6:12,13,25] is split into three parts. And the cities of the nations fall, (Rev 16:17-19) ... Also all islands flee and mountains are not found And a great hail, hail stones in weight of about one talent , [around 75 lbs or 35 kilos], fall and men curse God due to the plague of the hail because the plague is unusually great. These catastrophic weather events are the results of their spiritistic works, of which they do not repent, but blame God instead. The paper, 'Study Reveals Devastating 15-year Effect Of Nuclear Explosion On Ozone Layer,' (link above) confirms this when it says that a nuclear war could trigger catastrophic climatic change.

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The 2nd Woe (Rev 9:12,13-21)

Rev 16:12,15
And the sixth one pours out his bowl on the great river Euphrates and its waters are dried up that the way might be prepared for the kings of the rising of the sun ... Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one that stays awake and keeps his outer garments so that he may not walk about naked and people look upon his shamefulness.

Rev 9:14,15
And the sixth angel blows his trumpet: “Untie the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates, and the four angels are untied, who have been prepared for the hour and day and month and year to kill a third part of the men.

Mt 24: 32-42 NWT
Now learn from the fig tree … as soon its young branch is tender and puts forth leaves, you know summer is near. Likewise, also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors. Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means have passed away until all these things have taken place, [the generation that was alive from the 1940s], Concerning the day or the hour, no one knows but only the Father for just as the days of Noah were before the flood … and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the son of man will be … Keep on watch therefore because you do not know on what day your Lord comes.

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Mt 24:27 NWT
For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines to the west, so the presence, [3952 presence], of the Son of Man will be.

So what does the news lightening up the sky from the east to the west indicate?

Terror on Crimea Bridge forces Russia to unleash Shock’n Awe
Some of Us Don't Think the Russian Invasion Was "Aggression." Here's Why
U.S. in Damning Admission of Long-Planning War Against Russia
Biden’s Broken Promise To Avoid War With Russia May Kill Us All
US Rejection Of Moscow’s Offer For Peace Talks Is Utterly Inexcusable

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Woe 2
Continued from post 167 above.

Do you react to material published in the above links, does it go against the grain of what you believe to be true? Then consider this. Your reaction is no different from people living in non-western countries. Published news from whichever side has been filtered through the minds and hearts of individuals along the way. It is biased information that may contain outright lies. And when it has the official sanction of the ruling authority it is the narrative it wants you to believe. Those who rule are few in number whereas their citizens number in the tens of millions. This is a means of control, without it outright anarchy would prevail. Thus they are constrained to promote the narrative that will keep them onside. If that means distorting the truth and promoting outright lies, so be it.

But with the accessibility of the world-wide-web, it becomes much more difficult. Read this, We’re Being Pushed Toward Nuclear War On A Fiction, and watch the live-video of Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being confronted by anti-war protesters, here, ... TD9jD3cPfA

And here is something that will have major repercussions, Biden's Tech-War Goes Nuclear “Lots of people don’t know what happened yesterday. To put it simply, Biden has forced all Americans working in China to pick between quitting their jobs and losing American citizenship. Every American executive and engineer working in China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry resigned yesterday, paralysing Chinese manufacturing overnight. No doubt, when this impacts both large and small enterprises and people lose their jobs, the American-controlled media will present a distorted version blaming China, i.e. China expels American experts working in the semiconductor industry or something similar. It will be enough to keep most of the plebs onside. And who could refute it? Well, those who were threatened with losing their American citizenship and their friends and families will. I know if I were in their shoes, my outrage would cause me to tell everyone about what had really happened.

To prevent you from listening to things they don't want you to know they attach labels like fake news and conspiracy theories to whatever is published against their liking or resort to outright censorship, even as they did with the video I posted in post 154 above, 'North Koreans arrive in Ukraine to help Russia. But another up-loader has reposted it here: Does the same thing happen in the so-called Eastern block of countries? No doubt it does, but I can't comment on it because I don't live there. But individuals who do, can and do. Some promote the patriotic narrative, and yet others see through the hogwash and report from an independent perspective.

Knowledge of these political shenanigans is necessary to understand where we are in the stream of time. But there is another, more important invisible force at work here. And its work must be accomplished.

This force flows gently like the waters of Shiloah which means Sender as at Ps 104:10. Isaiah says to the people: Because you people have rejected the waters of Shiloah that are flowing gently and there is exultation over Rezin, [an Assyrian king, a descendant of the 1st empire builder Nimrod, cf. Gen 10:9,10,11;11:4) ... Therefore look! Jehovah is bringing up against it the many waters of the river, the king of Assyria and all his glory. And he will certainly come up over all his stream beds and go over all his banks and move through Judah ... up to the neck he will reach. Compare, Jhn 4:13,14 and Rev 12:15;17:1,18). And the outspreading of his wings, [Retzin/Nimrod's wings] will fill your land, O Immanuel!, (Isa 8:6,7,8).

Since Jesus is the only Immanuel in scripture, (Mt 1:23), this prophecy is about him. He played the role of Immanuel [with us is God] in the first century and does so again at the time of his return.

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Isa 8:10

Be injurious O you peoples and be shattered to pieces: and give ear all you distant parts of the earth ... Gird yourselves and be shattered to pieces! Plan out a scheme, and it will be broken up! Speak any word and it will not stand, for God is with us, [Immanuel's disciples, see Isa 8:16], For this is what Jehovah has said to me with strongness of hand to make me turn aside from this people saying: "You men must not say, 'A conspiracy, respecting all that which these people keep saying, 'A conspiracy!' The phrase, 'conspiracy theory,' has become the sound-bite that relegates anyone who questions the majority's belief to the lunatic fringe. The object of their fear you men must not fear, you must not tremble at it. To not keep silent, but to speak up like the anti-war protesters, in the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez video in the link above. Jehovah of armies is the one you should fear and he should be the one to make you tremble, (Isa 8:9-13),

The prophecy then gives attention to the role Immanuel plays in all this. He would become a stumbling block to both houses of Israel. He began to play the role of a stone to strike against and a rock over which to stumble in the first century, Isa 8:14-19; cf Jhn 6:10,14,15,25,26,27,32,35,51,52-55, 60,61,66). And Jesus/Immanuel finishes playing the role of a stone to strike against and a rock over which to stumble when he returns.

Today, even as in Ahaz's day, conspiracies are the lifeblood of politics. Ahaz had been told he should ask Jehovah what he should do. But Ahaz said: "I shall not ask neither shall I put Jehovah to the test". In those days the high priest would consult the Urim and the Thummim, which were kept in the pouch under the breast piece of his ephod, (Ex 28:30). These stones were used to get answers to questions of national importance from Jehovah. But Ahaz preferred to do his own thing. And so Jehovah said: "Listen please O house of David. Is it such a little thing for you to tire out men, [tire out to the point of exasperation], that you should also tire out God? Therefore look Jehovah will himself give you men a sign: Look! a virgin herself will actually become pregnant and she is giving birth to a son, and she will certainly call his name Immanuel, (Isa 7:10-14).

Immanuel [withusisgod] is the invisible force that is at work amongst the peoples of the earth this day. Touching hearts and minds he stirs people into action. His presence is like the lightning that lights up the sky from east to west. It sets alight smouldering embers of the heart. Jesus said in connection with his return: I come to start a fire on the earth and what more is there for me to wish it has already been lighted. So too, I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and now I am being distressed until it is finished, (Lu 12: 36, 39,40,41,42,46,49,50).

That fire is well and truly alight and it is separating people one from the other, and that work must be accomplished. Are we amongst the numberless great crowd that are starting to wash their robes in the blood of the lamb, (Rev 7:9,14). Or do we, like Peter, think it does not apply to us, (Lu 12:41)?

Jesus says concerning one of the heads of the seven-headed beast, that people followed this head/beast, whose death stroke got healed with admiration. And that during the 42 months of its rule, all those who dwell on the earth would worship it [submit to it, and that], the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the lamb who was slaughtered from the founding of the world, (Rev 13:3,8).

Note, the slaughtered head of the beast and the lamb have both been slaughtered and healed. One is an earthy authority, the other one a heavenly one. And note that the earthly slaughtered healed head has persecuted the heavenly one from the founding of the world. And that during the 42 months of its authority, it opens its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, and those residing in heaven, (Rev 13:6,7 ). So where do we stand on the issue? One cannot blithely assume that the slaughtered healed head is that which we have always believed it to be. It is a master of deception, (cf. Dan 8:24,25), and so the onus is on us to identify it. That entails examining what we believe it to be and why.

If anyone has an ear let him hear. If anyone [is meant] for captivity he goes away to captivity. If anyone will kill by the sword he must be killed by the sword. Here is where it means the endurance of the holy ones, (Rev 13:9,10).

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The 2nd Woe

War and Climate Change Lies

Biden’s Broken Promise To Avoid War With Russia May Kill Us All
On March 11, 2022, President Biden reassured the American public and the world that the United States and its NATO allies were not at war with Russia. "We will not fight a war with Russia in Ukraine," said Biden. "Direct conflict between NATO and Russia is World War III, something we must strive to prevent."
...On October 5, Nikolay Patrushev, the head of Russia’s Security Council, recognized that Russia is now fighting NATO in Ukraine. Meanwhile, President Putin has reminded the world that Russia has nuclear weapons and is prepared to use them "when the very existence of the state is put under threat," as Russia’s official nuclear weapons doctrine declared in June 2020 ... President Biden acknowledged on October 6 that Putin is "not joking" and that it would be difficult for Russia to use a "tactical" nuclear weapon "and not end up with Armageddon."
... Yet despite voicing the possibility of an existential threat to our survival, Biden was not issuing a public warning to the American people and the world, nor announcing any change in US policy. Bizarrely, the president was instead discussing the prospect of nuclear war with his political party’s financial backers ...
US Defense Secretary Austin declared that the West’s goal in the war was now to "weaken" Russia to the point that it would no longer have the military power to invade Ukraine again. But if the United States and its allies ever came close to achieving that goal, Russia would surely see such a total military defeat as putting "the very existence of the state under threat," triggering the use of nuclear weapons under its publicly stated nuclear doctrine

Yes, as Susan Glasser says in the video: 'Lying works.' But as has happened in her case, there comes a time when it is exposed.

This brings us to climate change lies.

Climate change is indeed real and is already upon us. And yes it is man-made. But like Glasser's partial statement in the video, it is only a half-truth to divert people's attention from what really happened.

NASA - Human Activity Is the Cause of Increased Greenhouse Gas Concentrations "Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."
Has it? Like the theory of the evolution of man that is now accepted as fact, the proof is missing. That human activity caused climate change is a fact, but just what that activity was that triggered climate change is a political consensus built on a lie. The current threat of nuclear war has spawned a flurry of research on the effect nuclear detonations would have on the weather.

Smoke from nuclear war would devastate the ozone layer & alter climate, Oct 13, 2021 - by David Hosansky.
...They also found that a nuclear war would destroy ozone because of chemical reactions involving nitrogen oxides produced from the fireball created by a nuclear weapon explosion ... found that smoke from a global nuclear war would destroy much of the ozone layer over a 15-year period … Since the ozone layer protects Earth’s surface from harmful UV radiation, such impacts would be devastating to humans and the environment. High levels of UV radiation have been linked to certain types of skin cancer, cataracts, and immunological disorders. The ozone layer also protects terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems, as well as agriculture.

Climate Change - Wikipedia
The current rise in global average temperature is more rapid than previous changes and is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels. ... Fossil fuel use ... greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane. ... Greenhouse gases absorb some of the heat that the Earth radiates after it warms from sunlight. Larger amounts of these gases trap more heat in Earth's lower atmosphere, causing global warming. Under the sub-heading Policies and politics it gives this performance index chart.Image

And in this link it asks, What Will Happen to Life on Earth, if the Ozone Layer Fully Depletes? Sep. 17 2021. And it goes on to say, The ozone hole over Antarctica is larger than ever this year ... A large or small ozone hole in one year does not necessarily mean that the overall recovery process is not going ahead as expected ???
But it can signal that special attention needs to be paid and research can be directed to study the reasons behind a specific ozone hole event.

So let's do that.

Nasa tells us that a systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s. Since then there has been a push to lower greenhouse gases. Yet, now some 50 years later we are told that the Ozone hole over Antarctica is larger than ever. That surely rules out the conclusion that it is the result of man-made greenhouse gas emissions. Especially since the biggest greenhouse gas emitters are in the northern hemisphere.

So what was the human activity that caused the ozone hole to form in the first place?

As shown in the graphs in post 166 the coral damage first appeared after the explosion of nuclear devices in the upper atmosphere in the late 1950s. The ozone hole was purportedly first noticed by a young man that had been posted to Antarctica to take measurements, The story behind the discovery of the ozone hole. Well, that might be the time when the public first got wind of it. But let's see what the boffins knew. They had known about the atmospheric belts including the ozone layer that protect the earth from solar radiation decades earlier. That was the reason for Operation Argus in 1958, see post 166 above. If you check out the link posted there it will help you understand what is being described in the video below. And at this link, High-altitude Nuclear Explosions, there is a table listing all the nuclear explosions performed at that time.

And here is what happened when they exploded Starfish Prime

Immediately after that explosion the US and the USSR signed the Partial Test Ban Treaty. (PTBT) is the abbreviated name of the 1963 Treaty Banning Nuclear Weapon Tests in the Atmosphere, in Outer Space and Under Water, which prohibited all test detonations of nuclear weapons except for those conducted underground, Wikipedia. Now with the threat of a nuclear war hanging over us, findings of the catastrophic effect that high-altitude nuclear explosions have on the climate are now being made public. Something they have known for fifty years.

After 1962 when the hole in the ozone layer first appeared, greenhouse gas emissions were the cover story. But now that Lie is being exposed. The damage done to the upper atmosphere by man cannot be undone. And current research indicates a nuclear conflict of any kind will unleash extreme cosmic weather events.

And when he opened the sixth seal a great quaking/shaking occurs and the sun becomes as black as sackcloth … and the entire moon becomes blood …and the stars of heaven fall to the earth as when a fig tree shaken by a high wind cast down figs, [possibly referring to meteorites, cf. Mt 24:29]. And the heaven/sky departed as a scroll that is being rolled up, (Rev 6:12-14). What happened over the South Pacific in 1962 will happen on a much larger scale in the northern hemisphere. And even as Jesus said, unless those days are cut short no flesh will be saved, (Mt 24:22). And flashes of lightning and voices and thunders occur and a shaking/quaking of such a magnitude as has not occurred since there came to be men on the earth, (Rev 16:18). It is at that time that Babylon the Great/Babel/Shesak is remembered by God to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of God's wrath, see post 165 above. And all Islands flee and mountains are not to be found. And a great hail about a talent in weight comes down out of heaven upon men, and men blaspheme God due to the plague because it is unusually great, (Rev 6:12-14).

The rulers of this world have known a day of reckoning must come and have prepared for it. And the kings of the earth and the top ranking ones and military commanders, and the rich and the strong ones and their armies of workers hide in caves and the rock masses of the mountains, [huge underground military installations], (Rev 6:15).

Note at 13:48 the presenter says that 'it was initially proposed in 1962.'

And they keep saying to the mountains, “Fall over us and hide us from the one seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, because the great day of their wrath has come and who is able to stand, (Rev 6: 16,17). This indicates that they are aware of whom they are dealing with.

At Mt 24:29,30 it is described thus: Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from heaven, [singular/earthly sky], and the powers of the heavens, [plural referring to the Van Allen belts], will be shaken. And the moon will not give its light and stars of heaven will fall from heaven, [refers to meteorite showers as seen from earth]. And then a sign of the son of man will appear in heaven, [singular as seen from earth] and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation as they see the son of man coming on the clouds of heaven, [as seen from earth], in power and glory

This video was uploaded on 12 Feb 2019. If we subtract the 61 years from 2019 we arrive at the time of the high-altitude nuclear tests of Operation Argus, in 1958, see post 166 above. As Susan Glasser said 'lying works,' but it has no power once it has been exposed. Therefore do not fear them; for there is nothing covered over that will not become uncovered and secret that will not become known. What I tell you in darkness say in the light, and what you hear whispered, preach from the housetops,, (Mt 10:26,27).

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Re: Revelation – Where we are in the stream of time​

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War and Climate Change Lies

Here is more current war news.

Cairns News - Russia hits back after attack on Crimea bridge

Kremlin responds to US troop deployment on Ukrainian border
The US troop deployment in Romania increases risks for Russia’s security, and will prompt Moscow to take countermeasures, Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday. He was referring to the US Army’s 101st Airborne Division, which is currently stationed in Romania on the border with Ukraine ...Last week, speaking to CBS News, commanders of the 101st Airborne Division said that they would not hesitate to enter Ukraine should a direct conflict break out between Russia and NATO … READ MORE: Elite US unit ready to fight in Ukraine if conflict ‘escalates’ – CBS ...In total, around 4,700 American soldiers from 101st Airborne have been sent to Europe. While in Romania, the division, which has been nicknamed “Screaming Eagles,” is holding live-fire ground and air assault exercises with their NATO counterparts. 

And watch this Bitchute video
Gonzalo Lira: Why I Think This Is An American Plan – 2022.10.24

Despite all the rhetoric, neither America, NATO, Russia, China nor the NWO elites want a nuclear war. My guess is that the current escalation is to get a better bargaining position from which to negotiate a ceasefire and a peace agreement, even as they did at the time of the Cuban missile crises in 1962. There are too many loose ends for this to be the start of the great tribulation of Mt 24:22.

From a scriptural perspective, Russia and China will return to the fold and become part of the harlot's global market system, (Rev 13:14-17). But America will no longer be able to call the shots of who is sanctioned and who isn't. The NWO beast will be multipolar with each country having an equal say and vote, (cf Rev 17:12). Up to now, the five permanent members of the UN security council have exercised their veto right. That means that a vote by any one of the five, the UK, US, France, Russia or China, can block any UN resolutions from being passed. And the current conflict between the US-led west and Russia-China-led eastern block has virtually hamstrung the UN, and so a new arrangement must be put into place. This new arrangement is described thus: And the ten horns mean ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings for one hour, (Rev 17:12). Their authority as kings means their vote counts and cannot be vetoed, all nations have an equal say.

The sticking point for America is its continued support for its protege Israel. In February 2011, the United States vetoed a draft resolution to condemn all Jewish settlements established in the occupied Palestinian territory since 1967 as illegal[57]. The resolution, which was supported by all other Security Council members and co-sponsored by over 120 nations,[58] would have demanded that "Israel, as the occupying power, immediately and completely ceases all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem and that it fully respect its legal obligations in this regard." ...The U.S. has vetoed over forty condemnatory Security Council resolutions against Israel;[107]. ... Almost all U.S. vetoes cast since 1988 blocked resolutions against Israel, Israel and the United Nations 2010, Wikipedia.

When this final multipolar beast comes into being, America will either have to knuckle under and take its place amongst the 10 horns without its veto right, or opt out completely. As it is America still has not ratified numerous UN treatise, see List of treaties unsigned or unratified by the United States. This means it's a bit of a loose cannon.

The nation-state of Israel is represented as a slaughtered healed head, one of the seven heads of the beast described at Rev 13:1,2. And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death but its death stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the beast , [this slaughtered healed head], with admiration, (Rev 13:3,4). Israel never became a fully-fledged member of the UN. On 15 May 1948, one day after the declaration of its establishment, Israel applied for membership in the United Nations, but the application was not acted on by the Security Council. Israel's second application was rejected by the Security Council on 17 December 1948. And it has failed to become a member ever since, for more detail, check out the Wikipedia link above.

The angel/messenger says to John, The beast that you see, that was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss. is what the slaughtered healed head of Rev 13:3,4 looked like in the first century, when the nation-state of Israel had ceased to exist. It was championed in the 21st century by the two-horned Anglo-American beast, (Rev 13: 11,12). Regarding it, it says: And the beast that you saw that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king] but springs from the seven - it was created by the conglomerate UN beast of Rev 13:1,2 where each head is a beast in its own right. And goes off into destruction, (Rev 17:11). This is a very precise description. The nation-state of Israel was created at the behest of the 2-horned Anglo/American beast, Rev 13:11,12. But it has never become a fully-fledged member of the UN for the reasons given in the above link. And that is why it is not included among the ten kings of the multipolar beast, which is about to come into existence.

Putin described what a 'Multipolar World Order' would look like at the Valdai Club, Russian president Vladimir Putin takes part in Valdai discussion club meeting on the 22nd October. As it stands, we are plunged deep into the maelstrom of complete collapse. ...Putin in fact did nail where we are: 'On the edge of a revolution

In a nutshell, the current escalation with regard to the war in Ukraine is about the two sides jockeying into a more favourable position from which to negotiate a peace deal, even as they did in 1962.

But deprived of its champion in the UN arena what will Israel do with regard to Iran, and vice versa? And what will America do??? Daniel had been told that this war with Iran/Persia would be the final war … I have come to cause you to discern what will befall your people, [Daniel's people], in the final part of the days, (Dan 10:1,13,14; cf. Mt 24:16-22).

And it is only then that Sheshak, aka Babel, Babylon the Great gets her comeuppance, see post 165 above. And the great city is split into three parts, [cf. Rev 17:18], and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great is remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath, (Rev 16:19).

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