AmosAu2 said;Please note the emphasized parts that very clearly show what happens to deliberate unrepentant sinners. They die! No future! There are of course many other scriptures that very clearly & definitely show the same eventuality.
Ok I disagree on the way you are interpreting these scriptures in Ezekiel. Let me prove it.
You have King David as a good example that your interpretation is way off. Now King David doesn’t have the internet to look at porn, but he does something even better.
(2 Samuel 11:2-5) . . .And it came about at the time of evening that David proceeded to rise from his bed and walk about on the rooftop of the king’s house; and from the rooftop he caught sight of a woman bathing herself, and the woman was very good in appearance. 3 Then David sent and inquired about the woman and someone said: “Is this not Bath-she′ba the daughter of E·li′am the wife of U·ri′ah the Hit′tite?”
Here David already has a bunch of wives, (By the way, isn’t that considered FORNICATION)
And he sees another woman taking a bath naked. So he scurries to his friends and asks;
Hey, who is that hottie over there—yum-yum!!
Now they quickly tell David; HELLO----SHE’S MARRIED!!)
In fact they tell David that she’s married to someone that he knows because they REMIND HIM
----SHE IS THE WIFE OF URIAH!
Ok this is the red flag for David to repent and turn around. But is that what David does? He has a bunch of wives, his friends tells him that Bathsheba is Married, and they tell him that she is married to one of his friends. That’s enough to scare the heck of most men.
But do all those things make David repent? Let’s find out.
2 Samuel 11:4 After that David sent messengers that he might take her. So she came in to him and he lay down with her, while she was sanctifying herself from her uncleanness. Later she returned to her house.
What happened? This is not something that happens in the heat of the moment like when two single young kids are kissing and it leads to something else.
This was calculated, well planned, devious, hurtful to the husband, unconcerned about what his friends or family or the people who he rule over might think. THIS WAS UNREPENTED BEHAVIOR THAT DESERVED DEATH. But most of all, David didn't give a hoot about what God thought and how it would affect the God of love and justice
Just like you quoted;
The following will be my last word on this subject, unless you are able to see the folly of your thinking. I quoted this before, but am quoting it again. Much earlier you posted Ezekiel chapter 18, well here's the part that I quoted & you have deliberately ignored. Please note the emphasized parts that very clearly show what happens to deliberate unrepentant sinners. They die! No future!
There are of course many other scriptures that very clearly & definitely show the same eventuality.
Ok this is enough to blow your interpretation of Ezekiel that you interpret as; what happens to deliberate unrepentant sinners. They die! No future!
Oh but it doesn’t end there. The unrepeated David goes even further. In fact even today, the most wicked vile men alive wouldn’t even go this far because it’s just gross.
2 Samuel 11: 5 And the woman became pregnant. Consequently she sent and told David and said: “I am pregnant.”
O-my goodness; how stupid could this man be?
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Ok, so it’s time for David to man up and get stoned for his sin. Because like you said, Ezekiel makes it very plain that unrepented sinners will DIE
and up to this POINT in time, David was UNREPENTED!
Like you said;
God then made the following statement to Ezekiel;
Eze 18:10 If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things, 11 And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife,
12 Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination, 13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
You also said
Quote; we must begin to do our own study & research into the true meaning of the scriptures.
And the meaning of these scriptures tell us;
Leviticus 20:10 "'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.
So if God would have kept his word according to Ezekiel, he would have put David to death RIGHT NOW
and you know what would have happened.
Urijah who was an innocent, righteousness, man that obeyed God’s commands would have lived.
And isn’t that what you have said, that if you obey God’s commands you live but if you disobey you die.
But you’re proved wrong in your reasoning by this example.
But that doesn’t end there does it.
Unrepented David goes further;
(2 Samuel 11:6) . . .At this David sent to Jo′ab, saying: “Send to me U·ri′ah the Hit′tite.” . . .
David said to U·ri′ah: “Go down to your house and bathe your feet.” Accordingly U·ri′ah went out from the king’s house, and the king’s courtesy gift went out following him. 9 However, U·ri′ah lay down at the entrance of the king’s house with all the other servants of his lord, and he did not go down to his own house.
Further, David called him that he might eat before him and drink. So he got him drunk. Nevertheless, he went out in the evening to lie down on his bed with the servants of his lord, and to his own house he did not go down. 14 And it came about in the morning that David proceeded to write a letter to Jo′ab and send it by the hand of U·ri′ah. 15 So he wrote in the letter, saying: “PUT U·ri′ah in front of the heaviest battle charges, and YOU men must retreat from behind him, and he must be struck down and die.
So Unrepented David went further with his wickedness and MURDERED THIS INNOCENT MAN TO STEAL HIS WIFE
Explain Ezekiel 18 with this example???
But that’s not all, almost a year goes by and David does not repent
. It is only when he has a child and it is revealed what he has done that he has no choice but to confess.
But he DIDN’T REPENT WILLING did he?
God forced repentance from David
—why would he do any less to wicked people today who die?
By the way Ezekiel 18 is not talking about everlasting life is it?
This is the thing you don’t see Amos. You can’t see how God’s judgments work. You still see things like the WT, very black and white.
(Romans 11:33) . . .O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments [are] and past tracing out his ways [are. . .
You see, the bible says that EVERY KNEE WILL BEND DOWN AND WORSHIP GOD
(Isaiah 45:23, 24) . . .By my own self I have sworn—out of my own mouth in righteousness the word has gone forth, so that it will not return—that to me every knee will bend down, every tongue will swear, 24 saying, ‘Surely in Jehovah there are full righteousness and strength. . .
But how will that be true if God kills the majority of the people who have done LESS wicked things than DAVID.