What was the shape of Noah's ark?

Chat about anything you like here that doesn't fit under Bible Doctrines. Keep the subjects clean and refreshing to all.
Forum rules
Matt 18:6; Eccl 7:9; 1 Pet 4:8 (If you're not sure what they say then please hover over them with your mouse or look them up in your own Bible before posting)
Message
Author
Kosonen
Posts: 384
Joined: 4 years ago

What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#1 Post by Kosonen » 3 years ago

The WT has insisted that Noah's Ark was purely box shaped. Is there Biblical evidence? In reality no. And a box shaped vessel in the water would be very unstable. That is why no boat is box shaped. And it would be very fragile. In high waves it would start to twist and leak and ultimately break down. I don't think that it is hard to imagine to any one of us. A vessel must have rounded forms to be strong in wild waters. And that is also important so the vessel does not turn over. And there must be place for ballast in the lowest parts of the rounded bottom to stabilize it. And that has to be put across the center line of the bottom, and it is to be avoided to put weight near the sides.

When the Bible tells how long and how wide Noah's ark was it does not really mean it was box shaped. Today too you tell how big a ship is by saying how long and wide it is. And everyone understands that the width in boat mesurements means the width at the widest part of the boat. It does not imply that the boat is boxshaped.

Many would then ask why is it then called Noah's Ark? Why not then Noah's boat or Noah's cargo vessel? Actually it was not called Noah's Ark in the original Hebrew text. It was just some kind of vessel. But it was the Greek Septuagint that first translated it to "ark" like the ark of the covenant Moses had made.
The hebrew word for this vessel in Genesis 6:14 is 'tevah' but the hebrew word for the Ark of the Covenant is 'arohn' habberith.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000367 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000369
But in greek Ark is in both instances kibbotos.
We know that the Ark of the Covenant was truely box shaped. But because in hebrew the words for ark are different conserning Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant, it means that Noah's ark was not a box necessarily.
The second occurence of the word 'tevah' is found in Exodus 2:3 where it tells about the papyrus basket Moses was laid in as an infant. And it is hard to imagine a papyrus basked strictly as a rectangular box with sharp edges and corners. Instead most likely it had rounded edges as baskets usualy have.

Understanding the true shape of the Noah's "Ark" is important if we are interested in finding archeological remains of Noah's Ark. Until now nobody has found box like remains of Noah' Ark at the mountains of Ararat. But instead remains of a ship like structure has been found near mount Ararat. And the length of that object corresponds to the lenght mentioned in the Bible about Noah's Ark. It was discovered 1959. https://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm

That is an amazing discovery. I have really enjoyed to learn about it. Check this out at the link above. And leave a comment if you liked it.
Best Regards

Bobcat
Posts: 4244
Joined: 8 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#2 Post by Bobcat » 3 years ago

Very interesting post and link, Kosonen. Thanks.

Bobcat

lynchpin
Posts: 176
Joined: 5 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#3 Post by lynchpin » 3 years ago

Hi Kosonen,

I've always taken an interest in this subject and thanks for posting your thoughts.
Something a little extra to think about below and view maybe.

A vast bunker-like building (does that ring a bell in your mind?) designed by architect Sir Roy Grounds and opened in 1968. The dimensions are close to Noah's Ark. The building is surrounded by water, it has a water wall that has the appearance of rain descending when you are inside looking through the window. Although it's much denied these days, Sir Roy mentioned his design was based on Noah's Ark dimensions at the completion of this building.

It's awesome inside...the depth and breadth of it.


This pic shows the openings along the top of the building for light and air. http://vhd.heritagecouncil.vic.gov.au/places/1066


Note view here 1970 a large box shape. Building surrounded by water on right.
http://www.architecture.com.au/docs/def ... f?sfvrsn=0

A few more images here of the size and shape.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Google+ ... 66&bih=654

Bobcat
Posts: 4244
Joined: 8 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#4 Post by Bobcat » 2 years ago

YouTube video on this find that is thought to be Noah's ark. This video discusses the same site linked to in the OP.





Bobcat

Kosonen
Posts: 384
Joined: 4 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#5 Post by Kosonen » 2 years ago

Nice video Bobcat, I enjoyed it!

AmosAu3
Posts: 456
Joined: 3 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#6 Post by AmosAu3 » 2 years ago

Hi Kosonen,

I must have missed this thread when you first posted it. I'm glad that you did post this, as I believe that it's an important thread.

Thanks also to Lynchpin and Bobcat for additional links.

Regards, Amos.

User avatar
menrov
Posts: 1922
Joined: 8 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#7 Post by menrov » 2 years ago

It says he prayed that there would be an earthquake and that in later 1978 he learned that there had been an earthquake. If it was this one:
November 24, 1976 14:22 local time Muradiye 39.12 44.03 4,000 7.5 MS see 1976 Çaldıran–Muradiye earthquake
it says 4000 people died......

Bobcat
Posts: 4244
Joined: 8 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#8 Post by Bobcat » 2 years ago

Linking some other material on Noah and the Great Flood here for cross reference purposes: Here.


Bobcat

Bobcat
Posts: 4244
Joined: 8 years ago

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#9 Post by Bobcat » 10 months ago

Poster FriendlyDoggo posted about a catacomb that had a box shaped graphic of Noah's ark: Here.


Bobcat

User avatar
Proselytiser of Jah
Posts: 491
Joined: 1 year ago
Contact:

Re: What was the shape of Noah's ark?

#10 Post by Proselytiser of Jah » 8 months ago

Bobcat wrote: 2 years ago YouTube video on this find that is thought to be Noah's ark. This video discusses the same site linked to in the OP.





Bobcat
If it has anything to do with Ron Wyatt, stay clear. That man has been proven to be a con man plenty of times and is always coming out with faked relics and "archaeological finds". I don't like to judge people, but I consider him a con man.


That being said, that site on the mountain is interesting in itself, and isn't something Ron Wyatt came up with, but I would not trust him to work on such a site or project and come up with anything honest or authentic.
"The fruitage of the Spirit is; love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control..." Galatians 5:22-23

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests