The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

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Sage Hill
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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#31 Post by Sage Hill » 2 weeks ago

Stranger wrote: 2 weeks ago
Sage Hill wrote: 3 weeks ago I feel extremely wary after everything I've been through. But I also feel like I need to to feel at home in some faith community. I've been praying for help in that area. I hope this will be that home.

Hi Sage,

Well the perks that come with this site can be very fulfilling, with all the spirited knowledge that abounds here, I hope you can feel at home here with your faith, I've been here over 4yrs and have never in the least felt wary of any one wanting to be in this neighborhood.

Welcome aboard!


Stranger, (Pr 27:10)
I do feel more comfortable here, like I can breath a sigh of relief. Many of the posts are very deep. Normally, that would be fascinating to me. But I am suffering from long Covid and I have cognitive problems due to that. Hopefully once I recover I'll be able to benefit more from the deeper posts and I'll be able to also participate more. There is nothing worse than losing your mind, believe me, especially if it used to be a good one.

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#32 Post by Stranger » 1 week ago

Sage Hill wrote: 2 weeks ago Many of the posts are very deep.
Hi Sage,

Yes, that's one of the perks I was talking about. (Jn 7:24 NLT) :D

I'm sorry to hear about your fight with long COVID-19 and I hope you get well soon. Keep praying to the Lord Jesus Christ and if you haven't been you should start. Don't let that cognition get in the way of getting in The WAY!. (Jn 14:6) Some say it's a fatal act of worship when you pray to Jesus, does that seem right to you? (Act 7:60) (Lu 23:34)


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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#33 Post by Sage Hill » 1 week ago

Stranger wrote: 1 week ago
Sage Hill wrote: 2 weeks ago Many of the posts are very deep.
Hi Sage,

Yes, that's one of the perks I was talking about. (Jn 7:24 NLT) :D

I'm sorry to hear about your fight with long COVID-19 and I hope you get well soon. Keep praying to the Lord Jesus Christ and if you haven't been you should start. Don't let that cognition get in the way of getting in The WAY!. (Jn 14:6) Some say it's a fatal act of worship when you pray to Jesus, does that seem right to you? (Act 7:60) (Lu 23:34)


Stranger
I know that Stephen seems to have prayed to Jesus. I tried it very tentatively the other day. I'm still not sure about it because Jesus himself taught us to pray to the Father. That's what feels right to me.

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#34 Post by Proselytiser of Jah » 1 week ago

Sage Hill wrote: 1 week ago

I know that Stephen seems to have prayed to Jesus. I tried it very tentatively the other day. I'm still not sure about it because Jesus himself taught us to pray to the Father. That's what feels right to me.
It does seem we can seemingly at least "talk" to Jesus. Paul did in one account, and it wasn't even a vision where he saw Jesus, but he petitioned to him.


Whether there is a "semantic" difference between "prayer and speech", I don't know, but if there is, I feel it would be via intent and how one "views" and honours the person they are speaking/praying to, ie; worship and devotion vs normal communication. I did open an topic here on the forum about it here:

viewtopic.php?t=5825

And I also have an article on my site

https://proselytiserofyah.wordpress.com ... do-i-pray/
"The fruitage of the Spirit is; love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control..." Galatians 5:22-23

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#35 Post by Stranger » 1 week ago

Sage Hill wrote: 1 week ago I tried it very tentatively the other day. I'm still not sure about it because Jesus himself taught us to pray to the Father. That's what feels right to me.
Proselytiser of Jah wrote: 1 week ago It does seem we can seemingly at least "talk" to Jesus. Paul did in one account, and it wasn't even a vision where he saw Jesus, but he petitioned to him.
If the spirit moves you let It groove you
Have confidence in Jesus Christ and trust His divinely appointed apostle Paul.

(Rom 8:14-15)
From the NET
14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are 17 the sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery leading again to fear, 18 but you received the Spirit of adoption, 19 by whom 20 we cry, “Abba, 21 Father.”


Footnotes from the Net,
17 tn Grk “For as many as are being led by the Spirit of God, these are.”
18 tn Grk “slavery again to fear.”
19 tn The Greek term υἱοθεσία (huiothesia) was originally a legal technical term for adoption as a son with full rights of inheritance. BDAG 1024 s.v. notes, “a legal t.t. of ‘adoption’ of children, in our lit., i.e. in Paul, only in a transferred sense of a transcendent filial relationship between God and humans (with the legal aspect, not gender specificity, as major semantic component).”
20 tn Or “in that.”
21 sn This Aramaic word is found three times in the New Testament (Mark 14:36; Rom 8:15; Gal 4:6), and in each case is followed by its Greek equivalent, which is translated “father.” It is a term expressing warm affection and filial confidence. It has no perfect equivalent in English. It has passed into European languages as an ecclesiastical term, “abbot.” Over the past fifty years a lot has been written about this term and Jesus’ use of it. Joachim Jeremias argued that Jesus routinely addressed God using this Aramaic word, and he also noted this was a “child’s word,” leading many to conclude its modern equivalent was “Daddy.” This conclusion Jeremias soon modified (the term on occasion is used of an adult son addressing his father) but the simplistic equation of abba with “Daddy” is still heard in some circles today. Nevertheless, the term does express a high degree of closeness with reverence, and in addition to the family circle could be used by disciples of a much loved and revered teacher.
tn The term “Abba” is the Greek transliteration of the Aramaic אַבָּא (’abba’), literally meaning “my father” but taken over simply as “father,” used in prayer and in the family circle, and later taken over by the early Greek-speaking Christians (BDAG 1 s.v. ἀββα).

Stranger, (Matt 6:6 KJV)

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#36 Post by Sage Hill » 1 week ago

Proselytiser of Jah wrote: 1 week ago
Sage Hill wrote: 1 week ago

I know that Stephen seems to have prayed to Jesus. I tried it very tentatively the other day. I'm still not sure about it because Jesus himself taught us to pray to the Father. That's what feels right to me.
It does seem we can seemingly at least "talk" to Jesus. Paul did in one account, and it wasn't even a vision where he saw Jesus, but he petitioned to him.


Whether there is a "semantic" difference between "prayer and speech", I don't know, but if there is, I feel it would be via intent and how one "views" and honours the person they are speaking/praying to, ie; worship and devotion vs normal communication. I did open an topic here on the forum about it here:

viewtopic.php?t=5825

And I also have an article on my site

https://proselytiserofyah.wordpress.com ... do-i-pray/
Thank you! I will definitely take a look at those. This is important.

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#37 Post by Sage Hill » 1 week ago

If the spirit moves you let It groove you
Have confidence in Jesus Christ and trust His divinely appointed apostle Paul.
Thank you, yes. I understand that if the apostles saw fit to do it, we should be able to as well.

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#38 Post by Sage Hill » 1 week ago

I looked at that discussion. I really do think that Sol is correct. I feel pretty strongly that prayer belongs to Jehovah in the name of Jesus. It seems like the preponderance of scriptural support is for that conclusion. In my prayers to Jehovah, I do express my deep appreciation for Jesus and what he did for us, and I know Jesus knows what I'm saying and how I feel.

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Re: The Open Letter to e-Watchman follower(s)

#39 Post by Stranger » 1 week ago

Sage Hill wrote: 1 week ago I feel pretty strongly that prayer belongs to Jehovah in the name of Jesus. It seems like the preponderance of scriptural support is for that conclusion.

Hi Sage,

What I can tell you is that the apostle Paul has a different idea in mind. He puts the utmost importance on having Christ at one's top for spiritual authority. (1Cor 11:3) compare (1Cor 11:4) That's the way I see it too. There are many that feel the way you do and they have their groups for support along with the way they interpret scripture.(1Cor 10:4-5)


Stranger, (2Pet 1:20)

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