Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings

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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - Eph 4:6, 8

#31 Post by Bobcat » 2 months ago

Here is a thread with a discussion of Eph 4:6, 8. The thread title was just about Eph 4:6, but the conversation grew to include Eph 4:8.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - John 8:58

#32 Post by Bobcat » 2 months ago

A web page that has an article about John 8:58, here.

Some of you might remember that the NWT has, "Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been." You can hover over the citation above and see how the ESV renders the same phrase.

As an unrelated point, see this thread on the phrase, "truly, truly ..." (in the NWT it is, "most truly ...") which is only found in the 4th gospel.

I also updated this thread's index with this post.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - 1Sa 17:50-51 & 2Sa 21:19

#33 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

There is, what is claimed by some, a possible contradiction between 1Sa 17:50-51 & 2Sa 21:19 regarding who killed Goliath.

The NET Bible offers their solution in the way they translate 2Sa 21:19 NET. (Compare with 2Sa 21:19 ESV; 2Sa 21:19 KJV) (In the KJV rendering notice that "the brother of" is italicized. This was the KJV's way of adding words to complete the thought.)

The NET has a footnote at 2Sa 21:19 (# 34) that says:
sn The Hebrew text as it stands reads, “Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite.” Who killed Goliath the Gittite? According to 1 Sam 17:4-58 it was David who killed Goliath, but according to the MT of 2 Sam 21:19 it was Elhanan who killed him. Many scholars believe that the two passages are hopelessly at variance with one another. Others have proposed various solutions to the difficulty, such as identifying David with Elhanan or positing the existence of two Goliaths. But in all likelihood the problem is the result of difficulties in the textual transmission of the Samuel passage. The parallel passage in 1 Chr 20:5 reads, “Elhanan son of Jair killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath.” Both versions are textually suspect. The Chronicles text appears to have misread “Bethlehemite” (בֵּית הַלַּחְמִי, bet hallakhmi) as the accusative sign followed by a proper name אֶת לַחְמִי (ʾet lakhmi). (See the note at 1 Chr 20:5.) The Samuel text appears to have misread the word for “brother” (אַח, ʾakh) as the accusative sign (אֵת, ʾet), thereby giving the impression that Elhanan, not David, killed Goliath. Thus in all probability the original text read, “Elhanan son of Jair the Bethlehemite killed the brother of Goliath.”

For some additional discussion of the issue, this Reddit AcademicBiblical thread (here) has a discussion about the problem that shows some of the various solutions that different scholars have offered over the years.

I personally like how the NET attempts to arrive at a plausible harmony of the two texts.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - Ex 4:24-26

#34 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

A thread on Ex 4:24-26 and "a bridegroom of blood": Here.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - Rev 22:2

#35 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

At Rev 22:2, is it tree (singular) or trees (plural)?: Here.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - 1Tim 2:4 NWT

#36 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

On the NWT's rendering of 1 Timothy 2:4, specifically, "all sorts of," see this post.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - 1Co 15:33 "Useful Habits"

#37 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

A thread on 1Co 15:33 and the NWT's phrase, "useful habits": Here.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - Rev 1:10

#38 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

A thread on Revelation 1:10 and "the Lord's day": Here.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - Mt 7:13, 14

#39 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

A thread discussing the "many" and "few" of Matthew 7:13, 14: Here.


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Re: Curious & Difficult Bible Sayings - 2Co 12:2

#40 Post by Bobcat » 1 month ago

A thread on 2Co 12:2 and the "third heaven": Here.


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