Kerry Huish wrote: ↑
4 weeks ago
I fear that there is no rebuke that could help CI, but maybe by her false step there might be salvation for others.
Without Jesus blood sacrifice there would be no new covenant.
Hebrews 9:15-18 Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
In the case of a will, it is necessary to establish the death of the one who made it, because a will does not take effect until the one who made it has died; it cannot be executed while he is still alive. That is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood.
Matthew 26:27,28 Then He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
Without the new covenant, there would be no forgiveness
of our sins.
I realize you mean well and are concerned for me and anyone who might be swayed by what I say. There is no doubt that the spirit of the words we speak influences others, it is our strength and it is also our weakness because it temps us to care for those who agree and to denounce those who don’t. Not one of us has finished cleansing themselves and whitening themselves, and thus none of us has been refined, (Dan 12:10).
I agree with your statement:
Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance,
But when you say:
Without the new covenant there would be no forgiveness of our [???] sins
This needs a little more explanation.
During the last supper, Jesus said to his disciples, "Drink from it, all of you. This is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins"
. This raises the question, who are the 'many
' referred to? Did he mean all humankind, i.e. to forgive them a sinful state that they had inherited from Adam. or did he have something else in mind. The writer of the letter to the Hebrews explains.
, [A primitive root; to be clean (ceremonially (cf Isa 66:17) or morally)], brothers, partakersof the heavenly calling
, [calling from, 2564, kaleó, invitation
], consider the apostle and high priest whom we confess - Jesus
... (Heb 3:1).
Who are these ones who are ceremonially clean and who have a heavenly calling
He then compares the high priest, Jesus, whom they confess, to the Levitical priesthood, saying, If, then, perfection was really through the Levitical priesthood... what further need would we have for another priest according to the manner of Melchizedek... there occurs a setting aside of the preceding commandment on account of its weakness and ineffectiveness
, (Heb 7:11,17-19). This refers to the Law which could not make anyone perfect or complete. When Jesus came he fulfilled or completed that Law, teaching them what was needed for them to be perfect so they could become children of God, see (Mt 5:17,18, 44,45,48).
Pointing out the differences between the high priest Jesus and the high priests of the Law covenant, (Heb 7: 26-28), he says ... for if the first covenant had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a second ...Look there are days coming when I will conclude with the house of Israel and the house of Judah a new covenant
, (Heb 8:7,8). He then quotes JeremiahThis is the covenant I shall conclude with the house of Israel after these days is the utterance of Jehovah. "I will put my law within them, and in their heart, I shall write it ... and they will no more teach each one his companion and each one his brother, saying know Jehovah, for they will all of them know me from the least of them, even to the greatest one of them
...(Jer 31:31,33, 34). This being the case, we try not to impose what we believe on others, who may not understand what is said in the same way as we do, knowing that Jehovah is the one who puts his law into their hearts and is teaching each one in their own way of understanding the matter.
Pointing to the various ordinances of the Law covenant he says ... However when Christ came as a high priest ... he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and of young bulls, but with his own blood once and for all time and obtained everlasting deliverance for us
, (Heb 9:120. The Greek word for deliverance is 3085. lutrósis, redemption in the Old Testament: ransoming from imprisonment for debt, or from slavery, release from national misfortune, etc.), liberation, deliverance, release
Paul confirms this in his letter to the Galatians, saying ...Who is it that brought you under this evil influence. You, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was openly portrayed impaled. ...Did you receive the spirit, due to works of the Law or due to hearing by faith. Are you so senseless? After starting out in the spirit
, [the spirit of the sayings of God by means of Jesus, Jhn 6:63], are you now being completed in the flesh... For all those who depend on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written: "Cursed is everyone that does not continue in all the things written in the scroll of the Law in order to do them. Moreover, that by law no one is declared righteous with God is evident, because "the righteous one will live by means of faith. Now the Law does not adhere to a faith, but he that does them
, [obeys all the commandment of the Law covenant, paying all the penalties whenever he transgresses], shall live by means of them.",
[cf.De 30:16]. Christ by purchase released us from the curse of the Law, by becoming a curse, instead of us, because it is written: "Accursed is every man hanged on a stake."
, (Gal 3:1-13)
So when Jesus said: "Drink from it, all of you. This is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
His disciples understood it to mean that he was replacing the law covenant with a new covenant, one that completed or fulfilled the law, (Mt 5:17), where forgiveness of sin did not depend on paying sacrificial penalties but in harmony with the perfect law depended on the extent one would forgive others ...forgive us our debt/transgression as we forgive those who transgress against us
(Mt 6:12). See also Mt 18:23-34 and read verse 35 where Jesus says... In like manner my heavenly Father will also deal with you if you do not forgive each other from your hearts
The writer of the letter to the Hebrews understood this, And said that these holy/clean partakers of the heavenly calling/invitation will by no means teach each one of his fellow citizens and each one his brother, saying: "Know Jehovah!" For they will know me
, [future], from the least one to the greatest one of them... For I shall be merciful to their unrighteous deeds, and I shall by no means call their sin to mind anymore... For in his saying, "a new, [covenant], he has made the former one obsolete
... (Heb 8: 10,11,12,13)
Note, there is nothing here about redeeming humankind from original sin.
Jesus is the mediator of an new covenant ...because a death has occurred for [their] release by ransom from transgression under the former covenant
. So those called/invited might receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance.
, (Heb (9:15). These ones sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals because you were slaughtered
, [aorist pass} and with your blood, you purchase
, [aorist] persons for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and you make
, [aorist], them be a kingdom of priests to our God and they will reign
, [future], as kings over the earth
, (Rev 5:9,10).
Putting it all together, Jesus gave his blood to free/manumit persons from every tribe, tongue, people and nation from slavery so that they would be fit to rule with him. Jesus said to Jews that had believed him “If you remain in my word you are really my disciples, and you will know the truth and the truth will set you free... They replied...never have we been slaves to anyone
. But they were slaves to sin, and Jesus said. Therefore if the Son sets you free, you will actually be free
...(Jhn 8:31,32,36). Once his sayings had reached the most distant parts of the earth others, out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation
were included, (Rev 5:9,10).
Daniel was told ...And there will be many of those asleep in the dust of the earth
, [adamah humankind] who will wake up, these to indefinitely lasting life and those to reproaches [and] indefinitely lasting abhorrence
...(Dan 12:2). This corresponds to the letters to the congregations/1577. ekklésia, an assembly
, from ek = out
and Kaleo =call, summon, invite
(Rev 2:1-29; 3:1-22). Thus these letters are to assemblies/communities/groups of called out/invited ones. The spirit ends his letter to each group with an admonition ...
- Ephesus...Nevertheless, I hold this against you, that you have left the love you had at first. Therefore remember from what you have fallen, and repent and do the former deeds, if not I will remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.. let the one who has an ear hear...(Rev 2:1,4-7)
- Smyrna...I know your tribulation and poverty – but you are rich- and the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan... Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer, Look the devil will keep throwing some of you in jail that you may be fully put to the test... prove yourself faithful even unto death and I will give you the crown of life ... Let the one who has an ear hear... (Rev2:8-11)
- Pergamum ...These are the things he says, who had the long two-edged sword...I know well where you are dwelling, that is where the throne of Satan is and yet you are holding fast to my name... Nevertheless, I have a few things against you, that you have those holding fast to the teaching of Balaam, who went teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel. Repent, therefore. If you do not... I will war with them with the long sword of my mouth ...Let the one who has an ear hear,(Rev 2:12-17)
- Thyatira ...Nevertheless, I hold [this] against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess... and she misleads my slaves... However, I say... to all those who do not have this teaching to get to know the deep things of Satan, as they say... hold fast to what you have until I come... Let the one who has an ear hear...Rev 2:18-29)
- Sardis... I know the deeds that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. Become watchful and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your deeds fully performed before my God... unless you wake up, I shall come as a thief ... let the one who has an ear hear... you have a little power and did not prove false to my name, Rev 3:1,2,3,6)
- Philidelphia ...I will give those of the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews and yet they are lying... I make them come to a do obeisance before you ...Because you kept the word about my endurance I will also keep you from the hour of test which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth. Keep holding fast to what you have... to the one that conquers I will make him a pillar in the temple... Let the one who has an ear hear... (Rev 3:7,10,11,12,13)
All those for whom I have affection I reprove and discipline, Therefore be zealous and repent, Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come into his house and take my evening meal with him and he with me. To the one who conquers I will grant him to sit down with me
- Laodicea ...I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot... because you are neither hot nor cold I am going to vomit you out of my mouth. Because you say you are rich... but you do not know that you are miserable and poor, and blind and naked, I advise you to buy gold from me... that you may be rich, and white outer garments that you may become dressed and that the shame of your nakedness may not be manifested... and eye salve to rub in your eyes that you may see ... Let the one who has an ear hear... (Rev 3:14,15-18,22)
, [future] on my throne, even as I sit
, [aorist], with my father on his throne. Let the one who has an ear hear what the Spirit says to the congregations
- the assemblies/groups of called out/invited ones, (Rev 3:19-22).
This calling or invitation has been, is being, issued to all the above-listed groups, each with its own set of customs and beliefs. Those who look to the Bible would fit under Pergamum, which the spirit tackles with a two-edged sword (Rev 2:12-17, cf, Heb 4:12). And those of Jewish groups might come under Smyrna and Philadelphia (Rev 2: 12-16; 3:7-11). The hearing ones in these groups sing the song of Moses the slave of God and the song of the Lamb
(Rev 15:3). The cleansing and whitening that each invited one who hears what the spirit says takes time. First, they realize that some of what they believe is wrong, which helps them to see more clearly. Then they see other beliefs or practices where they need to make changes, and as they do this they are being refined. Others, of those who have woken up do not do this, and they will miss out. It says concerning them ...no wicked ones at all will understand
... (Dan 12:10).
Jesus described it this way: The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man, a king, that made a marriage feast for his son. And he sent forth his slaves to call those invited to the marriage feast, but they were unwilling to come
. So the king sent out another invitation after he had made all the preparations for the feast and they again begged off with all manner of excuses, and some went so far as to beat up his slaves and treated them insolently.
This so angered the king that he sent out his army to destroy those murderers
and burned their city
(cf. Mt23:38; 24:2). Then, since the marriage feast was ready, but those invited not worthy
, the King said to his slaves ...Therefore, go to the roads leading out of the city and anyone you find invite to the marriage feast. Accordingly the slaves went out to the roads, and gathered together all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those reclining at the table... When the king came to inspect the guests he caught sight there of a man not clothed with a marriage garment
. One that had not cleansed themselves and whitened themselves and been refined, (Dan 12:10), So he said to him, ‘Fellow, how did you get in here not having a marriage garment?’ Bind him hand and foot and throw him out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be... For many are invited but few chosen... (Mt 22:2-14)