Hi Genesis,Genesis wrote: ↑2 years ago Hi Bobcat,
You have made a good argument for Lazarus being the Beloved Disciple. I agree that the scriptural evidence points in that direction.
Martha and Mary along with their brother Lazarus lived in Bethany not far from Jerusalem. Their home village figured prominently in the Gospel of John. Luke also records Jesus visit to their home.
(Luke 10:38-42) 38 Now as they were going their way he entered into a certain village. Here a certain woman named Martha received him as guest into the house. 39 This woman also had a sister called Mary, who, however, sat down at the feet of the Lord and kept listening to his word. 40 Martha, on the other hand, was distracted with attending to many duties. So, she came near and said: “Lord, does it not matter to you that my sister has left me alone to attend to things? Tell her, therefore, to join in helping me.” 41 In answer the Lord said to her: “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and disturbed about many things. 42 A few things, though, are needed, or just one. For her part, Mary chose the good portion, and it will not be taken away from her.”
Martha obviously felt close enough to her Lord to address him as she did. This family was close to the Son of God.
(John 11:1-4) . . .Now there was a certain man sick, Laz′a·rus of Beth′a·ny, of the village of Mary and of Martha her sister. 2 It was, in fact, the Mary that greased the Lord with perfumed oil and wiped his feet dry with her hair, whose brother Laz′a·rus was sick. 3 Therefore his sisters dispatched word to him, saying: “Lord, see! the one for whom you have affection is sick.” 4 But when Jesus heard it he said: “This sickness is not with death as its object, but is for the glory of God, in order that the Son of God may be glorified through it.”
Lazarus' sisters called him "the one for whom you have affection" this is an interesting reference because Jesus loved all his disciples. But it seems Lazarus was in some way singled out as one Jesus had affection for. Perhaps Lazarus was a young man too young to be an apostle but one who drew Christ toward him. Love, sincerity and humility are traits that invite love and affection.
If he as still a young man lived with his sisters then it made perfect sense for Christ to send his mother home with Lazarus who lived with women who could comfort her.
I realize I am not one of your favourite persons at the moment. I seem to keep stepping on your toes.
But I'm glad you have quoted Lu 10 with regard to Lazarus. Have you ever wondered why Martha would ask Jesus to intervene in a domestic squabble such as this? Under normal circumstances the head of the house, i.e. father, husband or brother would be asked to intervene, not the guest. In their family, it appears the only male was the brother. Why did they not call on Lazarus to deal with this? There are only two reasons I can think of, one is that he was not present, and the other that he was no more than a boy. I'm inclined to think the latter, as there is not so much as one conversation between Jesus and Lazarus in the Bible. Jesus loved the sisters and doted on the boy, who might have been a year or two older by the time he died.
The Gospel account attributed to John contains insider information, e.g. the private conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus Jhn 3:1-12; the plot against Jesus that would have only be known to a few, and certainly not by Lazarus Jhn 11:45,46 47-50.
There simply is insufficient information to say for certain who the one whom Jesus loved was that wrote this gospel account. He wanted it to be kept secret, and it remained secret for all time, which again makes one suspect it was a member of the Sanhedrin or someone close to that inner circle. It might have suited Jesus's purpose for him to remain incognito as in this way he would know what was planned. The intriguing part is why he remained incognito and why his followers also kept his secret forevermore; they say: ... this is the disciple that bears witness about these things and that wrote these things... meaning this gospel account was in writing from the very outset and conversations were recorded by this disciple or his scribe as they occurred. ... and we know his witness it true... the we referring to this secret disciple's followers who preserved and copied this original written account.