Isaiah 29:10 For upon YOU men Jehovah has poured a spirit of deep sleep; and he closes YOUR eyes, the prophets, and he has covered even YOUR heads, the visionaries.
Romans 11:8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep, eyes so as not to see and ears so as not to hear, down to this very day.”
Romans 13:11...YOU people know the season, that it is already the hour for YOU to awake from sleep, for now our salvation is nearer than at the time when we became believers.
1 Thessalonians 5:6 So, then, let us not sleep on as the rest do, but let us stay awake and keep our senses.
I don't dispute that saying 'sleep' and 'awake' can refer in a spiritual sense. The Scriptures you cited shows this clearly. What point I am making is based specifically on Dan 12:2 and the fact that when it uses the word 'sleep' it does so in the context of 'in the dust of the earth'. I then also like you have done, cited Scriptures that show what type of 'sleep' is being referred to.
[19 In the sweat of your face you will eat bread* until you return to the ground
, for out of it you were taken.+ For dust you are and to dust you will return
[29 All the fat ones of the earth shall eat and will bow down;+ Before him all those going down to the dust
will bend down,+ And no one will ever preserve his own soul* alive.+]
[39 “When they are heated I shall set their banquets and I will make them drunk, in order that they may exult;*+ and they must sleep an indefinitely lasting sleep
,* from which they will not wake up,”+ is the utterance of Jehovah]
[11 He said these things, and after this he said to them: “Lazʹa·rus our friend has gone to rest
, but I am journeying there to awaken him from sleep
.”+ 12 Therefore the disciples said to him: “Lord, if he has gone to rest, he will get well.”* 13 Jesus had spoken, however, about his death
. But they imagined he was speaking about taking rest in sleep.]
Also, there are 'other resurrections' that took place AFTER Jesus was resurrected - read the book.
For example, Tabʹi·tha and Euʹty·chus
Again, you keep with the apples and oranges even after I clarified for you what I meant. I don't dispute the resurrections you are referring to as taking place before the 'last day'. I said that I am not talking about the ones that were done for signs/proof.
What point? You made the statement that Jesus comes after the GT, even though you acknowledged that it is presented otherwise in Daniel 12
How about you give an clear answer....does Jesus come before the GT or after?
No, this is not correct. Nowhere have I said that the great day of Jehovah's and Jesus' wrath comes at the opening of the 6th seal.
I didn't say you did, it says that in the verses themselves. What I said you are saying since you say the trumpets follow the seals, is that you are then saying that the great day of their wrath comes before the 42-months that the holy city is trampled on by the nations.
Here read it for yourself what happens:
[Rev 6:12 And I saw when he opened the sixth seal,
and a great earthquake occurred; and the sun became black as sackcloth+ of hair, and the entire moon became as blood,+ 13 and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as when a fig tree shaken by a high wind casts its unripe figs. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll that is being rolled up,+ and every mountain and [every] island were removed from their places.+ 15 And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders* and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and [every] free person hid themselves in the caves and in the rock-masses+ of the mountains. 16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: “Fall over us+ and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne+ and from the wrath of the Lamb,+ 17 because the great day+ of their wrath+ has come, and who is able to stand
Let's try this since you say that all follows in order in your timeline:
- souls told to rest a bit longer
- SUN MOON STAR event, people running and hiding because the great day of Jehovah's and Jesus' wrath has come.
- 2nd woe/ 42 months nations trample holy city
- 3rd woe/ announcement made that Satan's world/kingdom has now become God's kingdom
Okay that so far is not me or you saying that...that is what the Scriptures state in order.
Just a few questions for you so that we can add to this timeline;
You say the 'first resurrection' happens in two stages, the dead being raised, then the living.
What letter/number do you say for the dead to be raised?
What letter/number for the living?
What letter/number does the 'last trumpet' occur?
What letter/number does Jesus arrive as stated at Matt 24:30?
What letter/number does the 1,000 years begin?
What letter/number does the GT occur?
What is the great day of their wrath referring to and does the GT occur before or after that great day?