Brother Huish wrote:
I just cannot follow or agree with many of your teachings.
The 7 apostasies, rebirths and marriages, its not a scriptural teaching.
Hello again brother Huish. Since you clearly do not recognize the many scriptures I have cited in connection with this topic as supporting my position on it, I'm hoping you might be willing to share with us what they actually are conveying.
That Jesus performed miracles when he was a child? I have not read this in any of the gospels.
I know where this story can be found and the book belongs next to Harry Potter, not as part of the inspired Word of God.
To be teaching it, frankly, it's a shame and an embarrassment.
I would respectfully caution you not to be too hasty with your comments my dear brother. The evidence suggests that the books I'm referring to were among the ones that began to be recovered and translated from the caves of Qumran near the Dead Sea after being discovered in 1947. Moreover the archeologists, researchers and scholars that have continued to work on the site since then (which they now know to be much bigger than they initially imagined) have increasingly begun to move further and further away from the idea that this was a hasty hiding place of the ancient Essenes and more and more in the direction that this was actually the headquarters of John the Baptist and his disciples during his first century ministry. What we commonly refer to as the Dead Sea Scrolls has increasingly begun to appear as a kind of library of Bible books that had been gathered or accumulated by John and his disciples. In fact they now realize that copies of these Bible scrolls were being produced in these very same caves that were being used to store and protect them.
The fact is however there is much more reason than this to begin being a bit more open minded to the notion that the Bible most of us are familiar with today actually represents only a small portion of what has been penned over the millenniums by divinely inspired writers. Among these reasons are scriptures like Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18 where we find Jehovah himself directing our attention to the book of Jashar. Obviously this is among the books that have experienced the effects of a kind of "cancel culture" over the millenniums. Nevertheless I have personally read this book and there is no question in my mind whatsoever that it is among what should be recognized as God's written word.
When you are reading verses 37-39 of Matthew Chapter 23, what you are actually considering is a direct quote from yet ANOTHER ancient book that is normally not recognized as part of the Bible cannon. If I recall correctly this would have been one of the two books of Esdras which are now only referred to occasionally as part of the Apocrypha. My own research suggests that at least half of the 12 or so books that comprise this "Apocrypha" had already been removed from the Bible by the Catholic Church by the time King James removed what was left of them in the version he produced around the year 1611. This is among the reasons I have such great disdain for the KJV.
If you have ever bothered to read one or more of the volumes of the Book of Enoch, I'm rather certain you would not only begin developing more respect for the scriptures that REFER to this ancient prophet, but you would also begin to realize that one or more of the Bible writers you are familiar with are actually quoting directly from his writings at times. The fact is a significant portion of what continues to be discovered in the caves of Qumran is the writings of ancient Enoch.
Brother Hush cites 2 John 2:9:
2 John 9 Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son.
The way you present your arguments, it's just not sound.
You see already at this point I would humbly suggest you consider the question of whether it is the incredibly lowly and insignificant Sol that is guilty of "pushing ahead" here and failing to "remain in the teachings of Christ," or if it is not rather actually ones like King James of England or institutions like the Catholic Church.
Brother Huish wrote:
1 Corinthians 14:7 As it is, the inanimate things give off sound, whether a flute or a harp; unless it makes an interval to the tones, how will it be known what is being played on the flute or on the harp? 8 For truly, if the trumpet sounds an indistinct call, who will get ready for battle? 9 In the same way also, unless YOU through the tongue utter speech easily understood, how will it be known what is being spoken? YOU will, in fact, be speaking into the air.
I have asked of you, quite some time ago, to make clear what you are saying but you refused.
Until the Master arrives and sets all matters right, these 'magic bean' teachings must remain.
I can only hope that I help at least some to spot these counterfeit truths and avoid them.
Are you really paying attention to the scriptures my dear brother? It's exceedingly clear to me that among the things every single one of us has been relentlessly programmed our entire lives to overlook when we are reading the Bible is very critical changes in settings and context. This is because it has the desired affect which is an incredible amount of confusion and by extension an alarmingly low level of scriptural knowledge and understanding. I'm not trying to put you down; the fact is that in this particular time frame at least I have yet to find someone other than myself that this fact is not glaringly obvious to. It is among the things that finally forced me to realize that I had become an "appointed slave." Perhaps I can demonstrate this point in the following manner:
Since you clearly seem intent on performing at least some sort of ministry, (a desire which is of course very commendable in of itself) even if it involves merely—"helping at least some spot these counterfeit truths and avoid then" as you say; allow me please to pose the following questions to you: What is your target audience in this ministry? Is it the general public you are endeavoring to assist here, which the scriptures refer to with terms found in accounts like Matthew 28:18-20? or is it a ministry towards what is somewhat more cryptically referred to with terms like- "the lost sheep of the house of Israel," the "ten virgins," "Christ's domestics" or "brothers"? (Mt 10:5, 6 25:1, 2, 40)
ONE of these ministries involves "speech that is easily understood." (1 Cor 14:7) The other has been clearly demonstrated time and again to involve things like a constant stream of illustrations, parables, dramas, visions and dreams that require an interpretation on the part of Jehovah himself or otherwise an explanation by means of his prophets. (Ge 40:8) (Da 2:16-19) (Mt 13:34-36) (Mr 4:34) Since regardless of whether or not the context or setting happens to be that of a kingdom covenant in good standing with mankind or by contrast that of another foretold national apostasy JEHOVAH'S target audience nonetheless is always his anointed shepherding fold, the vast MAJORITY of his WRITTEN word is directed towards the LATTER. This of course is what makes so much of the Bible rather difficult to understand.
The first thing I would strongly recommend in your case brother Huish is to prayerfully and scripturally ascertain which of these two prophetic time frames we currently find ourselves in. If you determine we are in a setting in which Jehovah's nation or kingdom has once again been fully manifested by means of a renewed kingdom covenant and its corresponding resurrection of God's prophets or "two witnesses" which happens to be the precise context and setting of the ministry Jesus is speaking of at Matthew 28-18, 19, then I would strongly suggest you do something like rejoin the Watchtower organization in their door to door ministry. (Re 11:3, 7, 11, 12) Hopefully you at least could begin delivering a much more scripturally accurate version of the spiritual baby talk they always spew at the general public. If on the other hand you come to the conclusion that we are once again in a post-apostasy/PRE-kingdom setting, then I would strongly suggest you stay in a place or situation very much like the one you stumbled upon here at –"Discuss the truth.com" along with making the following adjustment or two in your approach:
Since you clearly do not recognize the incredibly lowly and insignificant Sol as one of Jehovah's prophets or appointed slaves, the first thing I would recommend is that you VERY QUICKLY get to work at finding someone you DO in fact recognize as such. Was this not precisely what was demonstrated for us with examples like those of the disciples of Jesus and John the Baptist in this very setting in the early part of the first century? namely the one we we once again find ourselves in at this very moment? (Ro 15:4) After all, even if we continue choosing to completely ignore a very clear and consistent scriptural pattern of Jehovah's prophets or what is also referred to as his "two witnesses" or "appointed slaves" appearing on the earth immediately prior to another "coming of the kingdom," we would still need to come to terms with what is stated in scriptures like Amos 3:7.
Once you have succeeded in doing THIS, the change in your approach I would recommend next would be that when you do not understand something that this prophet has to say, you approach this one "privately" for an explanation. (Mr 4:34) (Mt 13:36) There actually is in fact an option for private communication on this particular website which I seldom see being used. Of course if we do not currently recognize ANYONE as a prophet of Jehovah, then it would seem a complete waste of time on our part to follow this example of these ancient disciples.
There is absolutely no question in my mind brother Huish that in the case of yourself or ANYONE who actually begins paying close and prayerful attention to the scriptures themselves as opposed to things like YouTube videos or sermons and literature from non-Biblical sources, your efforts will immediately begin being rewarded by Jehovah. (2 Cor 6:17)
Brother Huish cites Luke 17:1:
Luke 17:1 Then he said to his disciples: “It is unavoidable that causes for stumbling should come. Nevertheless, woe to the one through whom they come!
Once again this would be a great example of how important it is for us to pay attention to the specific setting or context of any given scriptural account we are considering. Let's not forget first of all that the ministry of Jesus and his followers ITSELF was clearly identified as a kind of "stone of stumbling" or even "rock mass of offense" to ANY AND ALL who would refuse to respond favorably to it. (1 Pe 2:7, 8) (Isa 8:14, 15) (Mal 3:2, 3) This would ultimately include even the more "foolish" of the anointed "virgins." (Mt 25:1, 2)
The specific parable found here at Luke 17 was actually prompted from some "sneering" on the part of some "Pharisees" that were "listening in" on the sermons of Jesus. (Lu 16:14) As wild or even "crazy" as it might sound too many, let's just imagine for the moment that the incredibly lowly and insignificant Sol actually is a prophet of Jehovah. If this "sneering" or mocking of Jehovah's prophets that ALWAYS occurs in these time frames is actually along the lines of what we should be recognizing as the "stumbling block" Jesus speaks of here, then wouldn’t it be true we should be thinking merely in terms of how we might be a little more loving and respectful in the way we word our posts to our fellow brothers and sisters?
The fact is however that a deeper analysis of accounts like this in Luke will eventually lead to the conclusion that the "stumbling block" Jesus is ultimately speaking of here is the very thing that would ALWAYS essentially PRODUCE a plethora of figurative Pharisees on the earth. This figurative "thief in the night" that the anointed members of God's nation would ALWAYS be commanded to be "on the watch" for (even "three" times) after experiencing another renewed "kingdom covenant" in 33 CE is the "wicked" actions on the PART of these same anointed ones involved in "LEAVING" this "holy covenant." (Lu 12:35-40 22:28, 29) (Da 11:30-32) The spiritual "leprosy" that this always introduces into Jehovah's nation is indeed not only a tremendous "stumbling block" to it, but even a "leavening" that Jesus foretold to occur "three" times after his resurrection in SEVERAL different ways or "illustrations" in the Gospel accounts alone. (Mt 13:33, 34 16:6) (2 Ki 5:14)