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by Bobcat
5 hours ago
Forum: Bible Doctrines
Topic: The Disciple Jesus Loved = Lazarus?
Replies: 106
Views: 6523

Re: The Disciple Jesus Loved = Lazarus?

The January 2021 WT (p. 8), in the Preview statement to Study Article 2 says (in part), "The apostle John is believed to be "the disciple whom Jesus loved." (Jn 21:7)" It was curious to me that they left it at "believed to be." I looked thru the article but I didn't see where they elaborated on that...
by Bobcat
1 day ago
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Interesting Stuff
Replies: 297
Views: 24929

Re: Interesting Stuff

A poster on Reddit, an admitted atheist, posed an interesting question: We know the JW argument to justify the authority of their GB: in the first century there was a governing body. It started in 33 EV. The current GB is a continuation of that institution. But if indeed such a governing body was fo...
by Bobcat
1 day ago
Forum: Bible Doctrines
Topic: Chiastic Structure in 1st Thessalonians
Replies: 3
Views: 88

Re: Chiastic Structure in 1st Thessalonians

Hi Stranger, See my post here and the very next post. What I was pointing out about the verb rendered "are saying" (in 1Th 5:3) is that, in the present, active inflection that it has (same as in Mt 16:13) it has the meaning of a viewpoint, opinion, or attitude. So Paul is not foretelling some future...
by Bobcat
2 days ago
Forum: Bible Doctrines
Topic: Chiastic Structure in 1st Thessalonians
Replies: 3
Views: 88

Chiastic Structure in 1st Thessalonians

Linking to a post that outlines the chiastic structure in the "peace and security" statement in 1Th 5:3: Here.

Also, for reference purposes, here is a page on JWFacts with numerous quotes from politicians regarding "peace and security."


Bobcat

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by Bobcat
2 days ago
Forum: Bible Doctrines
Topic: Peace and security
Replies: 17
Views: 1407

Re: Peace and security

For reference purposes linking to JWFacts web page on "Peace and Security": Here . It is useful because it has numerous quotes by politicians including such words in their speeches. The WT's explanation of 1Th 5:3 contradicts what Jesus said at Mt 24:44. Also, the verb inflection in 1Th 5:3 ("are sa...
by Bobcat
2 days ago
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Interesting Stuff
Replies: 297
Views: 24929

Re: Interesting Stuff

This might be an interesting video. It is about Ed Dunlap and the purge that took place at WT's New York Bethel. I haven't watched it yet, so if anyone finds anything objectionable about it let me know and I will delete it. The video is all audio (about an hour) of Dunlap reminiscing about his WT se...
by Bobcat
2 days ago
Forum: General Chat
Topic: "MEN'S HEARTS FAILING THEM"
Replies: 2
Views: 113

Re: "MEN'S HEARTS FAILING THEM"

Hi RR144,

I was curious what angle your post was taking. What was the point of the quote.


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by Bobcat
3 days ago
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Interesting Stuff
Replies: 297
Views: 24929

Re: Interesting Stuff

Someone on another forum posted a write-up that discusses characteristics of high-control groups. I don't think that the write-up is directly written about the WT. But there are many similarities: 1. Milieu (Environmental) Control - Control over the members' flow of information and social interactio...
by Bobcat
3 days ago
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Interesting Stuff
Replies: 297
Views: 24929

Re: Interesting Stuff

A witnessing letter making the rounds on ex-JW sites: Here.


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by Bobcat
3 days ago
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Intentional omissions or intentional insertions?
Replies: 29
Views: 1376

Re: Intentional omissions/insertions? - Luke 9:55

How Luke 9:55 is rendered in various Bibles makes it a good subject for this thread. One can see how it is variously rendered here . The NET has a footnote at this verse (# 186) where they offer remarks about the added phrase: tc Many mss ([D] K Γ Θ ƒ [579] 700 2542 pm it) have at the end of the ver...